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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Rate episode 7x08 Cold War
Geronimo! 34 27.42%
NIce Warrior! 66 53.23%
lukewarm 21 16.94%
Will spring never come? 3 2.42%
Dive Dive Dive! 0 0%
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Old April 14 2013, 06:53 PM   #76
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Nowhere near as good as the first one, but way better than last weeks !

Crap sub interior, but extra marks for getting Clara wet...
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Old April 14 2013, 07:15 PM   #77
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Is it just me or was this episode a bit on the short side? The running time on my copy only goes to a bit over 40 minutes.
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Old April 14 2013, 07:18 PM   #78
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^^Strange, your right, 41 mins 28 seconds on iplayer, why did i think this was 50 mins?
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Old April 14 2013, 09:32 PM   #79
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I think the class for the sub was Yankee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_class_submarine
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Old April 14 2013, 10:04 PM   #80
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No, I think it was a Delta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta-class_submarine

The hump on its back.

In actuality, I don't think it could have fired its missiles at that depth

I was hoping it would have something to do with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian
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Old April 14 2013, 11:09 PM   #81
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Man, that was really depressing reading about submarines lost at sea... that must be a terrible way to die.
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Old April 14 2013, 11:23 PM   #82
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Yes, this episode rocked! Well, I would say it's cool, but that might come off as a pun.

Ice Warriors have always interested me, and this episode sure didn't disappoint. It updated the Ice Warriors while staying faithful to the original design and didn't come off as cheesy. Definitely not an easy combination, but they pulled it off here. Hell, they even managed to make the clamp hands they had in the classic era seem plausible despite the fact this Ice Warrior didn't even have them. Skaldak himself was also a great character who I hope returns in some capacity again.

The story itself is somewhat by the numbers, standard stranded people being picked off one by one. Although the setting of a Soviet submarine makes this seem fresh, and all the movie Soviet tropes are a delight to watch in this sci-fi story.

David Warner was rather underused, although his character was amusing, a source of comic relief that wasn't distracting. But at times it seeme he was just shoved off to the side. Maybe that was intentional, convey that his character is an outsider among the sub's crew. But still, the guy is a great actor and the character was great when he was used, it's just a shame they didn't get more use out of him.

Nitpick: the captain has four stripes on his uniform, which means he is an O7 captain. However, my understading is that submarines usually have an officer with a lower rank for its captain, like a Commander or even a Lt. Commander. Or are things different in Russia (or were different in Soviet Russia)?

But yeah, amazing episode. Doctor Who is on a roll this year.
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Old April 14 2013, 11:23 PM   #83
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Old April 14 2013, 11:47 PM   #84
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Old April 15 2013, 12:09 AM   #85
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Another nitpick: there's a difference between a nuclear-powered submarine, and a nuclear-weaponed sub.The latter are always the former, but you'd send the former to drill for oil and dig up mammoths, not the latter. They need to be in the right position to launch (so heading off to the South Pole on your own decision is going to get the captain court-martialed unless the USSR branch of UNIT speak up for him).
And the Prof must have been in the KGB to have a walkman and cheek the military the way he did: which isn't actually a problem, the KGB were in the vanguard of reform in the early 1980s, as they knew the reality because they were trusted with western info, not the propaganda (they just didn't expect reform to go as far as it did...).
Oh, and aside from the idiot who thawed out the ice block, it wasn't an ice block, more an ice box that the Ice Warrior could punch its way out of, which makes no sense at all.
And... but I don't care, I liked it!
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Old April 15 2013, 12:38 AM   #86
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Do you think RTD would've offed the professor?
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Old April 15 2013, 01:49 AM   #87
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diankra wrote: View Post
Another nitpick: there's a difference between a nuclear-powered submarine, and a nuclear-weaponed sub.The latter are always the former, but you'd send the former to drill for oil and dig up mammoths, not the latter.
Well, they were actually training in case of the need to launch weapons (I was going to say drilling, which is more accurate, but training doesn't include drilling for oil). Why they have a scientist and chose to dig up something in the ice is less than clear, though.
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Old April 15 2013, 01:53 AM   #88
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Just a side, I wonder if they staged this episode in 1984 in the cold war era due to the current parallels with today's political nuclear threat of North Korea or Iran. Sometimes I wonder if they do such things to seem relevant to today's happenings.
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Old April 15 2013, 07:49 AM   #89
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Fantastic episode! I thought the CGI reveal of Skaldak's face at the end was a trifle unnecessary though. I would've preferred they kept his face a mystery but realize some may have been disappointed if this had happened.
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Old April 15 2013, 08:56 AM   #90
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Mr. Adventure wrote: View Post
Do you think RTD would've offed the professor?
No but it probably wouyld have been revealed that the Professor and the Captain were a couple
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