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Old April 14 2013, 06:46 PM   #1
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Bieber hopes Anne Frank would have been a fan

Justin Bieber hopes Anne Frank 'would have been a belieber': If Anne Frank had not died a teenager in a Nazi concentration camp in 1945, Justin Bieber hopes she would have been his devoted fan.

Boy, there's no nice way to say this. Just grow the hell up.
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Old April 14 2013, 06:55 PM   #2
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Re: Bieber hopes Anne Frank would have been a fan

What he wrote, according to the Anne Frank House FB page, was "Truly inspiring to be able to come here. Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber."

It sounds to me like he would have preferred she grow up a normal teenaged girl instead of having to die so terribly at the hands of Nazi oppression. I see no malice at all in his statement.
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Old April 14 2013, 06:59 PM   #3
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Re: Bieber hopes Anne Frank would have been a fan

And I thought Kanye West was an egomaniac. Leave it to self-entitled celebrities to make everything about them. Even the Holocaust.
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Old April 14 2013, 07:20 PM   #4
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Re: Bieber hopes Anne Frank would have been a fan

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I see no malice at all in his statement.
I see no malice either. I see an incredibly immature and self absorbed young man.
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Old April 14 2013, 07:28 PM   #5
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So how is he any different from any other teenager?

I'm surprised he's not worse considering he's missed a normal upbring, is amazingly wealthy and is surrounded by enablers and yes-men.
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Old April 14 2013, 07:39 PM   #6
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normal teenagers don't have their monkey confiscated by german officials
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Old April 14 2013, 07:41 PM   #7
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Re: Bieber hopes Anne Frank would have been a fan

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So how is he any different from any other teenager?
He's an incredibly famous millionaire with 37 million followers on Twitter. That's quite different from any other teenager. He's also spectacularly dim-witted in a way that very few celebrities actually are.
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Old April 14 2013, 07:43 PM   #8
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I see no malice at all in his statement.
I see no malice either. I see an incredibly immature and self absorbed young man.
I don't see where he's supposed to be self absorbed. It's a fact that there are millions of average, everyday, teenage girls who adore Justin Bieber. So he wants to think that maybe she would have been a fan had the circumstances of her life been different. There's nothing wrong with that.

As for immature, he's 19 years old, and a celebrity. Quite frankly, considering the circumstances, his response is rather reserved.
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I don't see where he's supposed to be self absorbed. It's a fact that there are millions of average, everyday, teenage girls who adore Justin Bieber. So he wants to think that maybe she would have been a fan had the circumstances of her life been different. There's nothing wrong with that.
Had the circumstances of Anne Frank's life been different, she would not have been Anne Frank. That's the whole point, as I'm sure you'd agree. The very point of the Anne Frank story is that she was a perfectly normal young girl living in a completely abnormal era, and trivializing it by saying that she would have potentially been a Justin Bieber fan had she not been a victim of the Holocaust is missing the point to such a spectacular degree that it's just one piece of evidence to show that Justin Bieber is a very idiotic young man, no matter what kind of life he has lived.
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I don't see where he's supposed to be self absorbed. It's a fact that there are millions of average, everyday, teenage girls who adore Justin Bieber. So he wants to think that maybe she would have been a fan had the circumstances of her life been different. There's nothing wrong with that.
Had the circumstances of Anne Frank's life been different, she would not have been Anne Frank. That's the whole point, as I'm sure you'd agree. The very point of the Anne Frank story is that she was a perfectly normal young girl living in a completely abnormal era, and trivializing it by saying that she would have potentially been a Justin Bieber fan had she not been a victim of the Holocaust is missing the point to such a spectacular degree that it's just one piece of evidence to show that Justin Bieber is a very idiotic young man, no matter what kind of life he has lived.
I guess I don't see what he said as anything approaching bad. Sure, it's a bit out of place, but otherwise harmless. To me it's a lot of sturm and drang, signifying nothing.
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I guess I don't see what he said as anything approaching bad. Sure, it's a bit out of place, but otherwise harmless. To me it's a lot of sturm and drang, signifying nothing.
Again, Justin Bieber has millions of fans, and in more than one occasion, said fans have issued death threats for trivial reasons, so whatever he is saying can't just be dismissed as mere pablum or innocuous noise. This young man has a lot of influence on many young people, and considering how immensely moronic and uneducated he is, I don't think it's unfair to keep a close eye on him and hold him to some kind of minimal standard of public decency.
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Old April 14 2013, 08:03 PM   #12
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I guess I don't see what he said as anything approaching bad. Sure, it's a bit out of place, but otherwise harmless. To me it's a lot of sturm and drang, signifying nothing.
Again, Justin Bieber has millions of fans, and in more than one occasion, said fans have issued death threats for trivial reasons, so whatever he is saying can't just be dismissed as mere pablum or innocuous noise. This young man has a lot of influence on many young people, and considering how immensely moronic and uneducated he is, I don't think it's unfair to keep a close eye on him and hold him to some kind of minimal standard of public decency.
In all fairness, he's had death threats issued against him by people with a severely irrational hatred for the kid. Yeah, he has some issues he really needs to resolve, but on the whole, he's a decent person. He's a 19 year old pop singer who has lots of teenage fans. You want to monitor a current celebrity? Go monitor someone like, say, Chris Brown. He's done far more terrible things than want a historical figure to be a fan of his music.

Plus, if he doesn't adhere to your standards of public decency, what are you going to do? Spank him?
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In all fairness, he's had death threats issued against him by people with a severely irrational hatred for the kid. Yeah, he has some issues he really needs to resolve, but on the whole, he's a decent person. He's a 19 year old pop singer who has lots of teenage fans. You want to monitor a current celebrity? Go monitor someone like, say, Chris Brown. He's done far more terrible things than want a historical figure to be a fan of his music.

Plus, if he doesn't adhere to your standards of public decency, what are you going to do? Spank him?
I'm going to say out loud what I think about him, which, even though I do have a small radio audience, is not going to make much of an impact of course, but were we to follow your "there are worse things in life"/"you can't do anything about it anyway" philosophy, we would be so crippled with apathy and cynicism that we would never express any opinion about anything. I'd rather speak my mind if it's all the same to you.
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In all fairness, he's had death threats issued against him by people with a severely irrational hatred for the kid. Yeah, he has some issues he really needs to resolve, but on the whole, he's a decent person. He's a 19 year old pop singer who has lots of teenage fans. You want to monitor a current celebrity? Go monitor someone like, say, Chris Brown. He's done far more terrible things than want a historical figure to be a fan of his music.

Plus, if he doesn't adhere to your standards of public decency, what are you going to do? Spank him?
I'm going to say out loud what I think about him, which, even though I do have a small radio audience, is not going to make much of an impact of course, but were we to follow your "there are worse things in life"/"you can't do anything about it anyway" philosophy, we would be so crippled with apathy and cynicism that we would never express any opinion about anything. I'd rather speak my mind if it's all the same to you.
You're right. You must address the threat that is Justin Bieber. You must stop him before he signs any more historical guest books. Heaven help us if Thomas Jefferson becomes a belieber. Go! Don't wait for me here! You have a world to save from pop fandom! Let your voice ring from the mountaintops!
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You're right. You must address the threat that is Justin Bieber. You must stop him before he signs any more historical guest books. Heaven help us if Thomas Jefferson becomes a belieber. Go! Don't wait for me here! You have a world to save from pop fandom! Let your voice ring from the mountaintops!
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