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Old April 11 2013, 07:38 PM   #241
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Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion

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Man, I freakin' wish Dark Horse had the Star Trek license.
Having seen their Mass Effect comics, I'd fine with Trek staying with IDW.
I'd blame that on the writer (to wit, Mac Walters, the lead writer on ME3), not the publisher.
It's not the writing so much as the art. Mass Effect always was weak when it came to anything that wasn't mission specific or character writing anyway, so I don't hold that against Walters.
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Old April 11 2013, 07:40 PM   #242
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I do not see from this miniseries what a potential abuse of power has to do with Khan on the last page.
My thought on the final pages...



Now, if that's true, then the film's release schedule makes absolutely no sense, because why would Paramount blow that plot twist in the film's primary market by releasing it early in Britain? Tentpole film marketing is beyond me, I'm afraid.
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Old April 11 2013, 11:14 PM   #243
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I've heard that theory before, and it wouldn't surprise me at all. Marcus is Peter Weller, right?
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Old April 12 2013, 03:28 AM   #244
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After reading issue 4 I'm going to repeat my earlier question: why was Mudd Bajoran? Without getting sidetracked about what relation she is to Harry Mudd, she's obviously meant to be connected, otherwise why use the name? And really, she could have been human and nothing would have changed in the story at all.
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Old April 12 2013, 03:41 AM   #245
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After reading issue 4 I'm going to repeat my earlier question: why was Mudd Bajoran? Without getting sidetracked about what relation she is to Harry Mudd, she's obviously meant to be connected, otherwise why use the name? And really, she could have been human and nothing would have changed in the story at all.
I'm wondering if that was an art error - it didn't ever come up in the text, did it?
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Old April 12 2013, 03:57 AM   #246
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After reading issue 4 I'm going to repeat my earlier question: why was Mudd Bajoran? Without getting sidetracked about what relation she is to Harry Mudd, she's obviously meant to be connected, otherwise why use the name? And really, she could have been human and nothing would have changed in the story at all.
I'm wondering if that was an art error - it didn't ever come up in the text, did it?
No, it never was in the text. I could accept it was an error if it was just her nose (thought that would be one hell of an error) but when she's first seen in issue 2 she's clearly wearing a distinctly Bajoran looking earring. They intended for her to be Bajoran and never did anything with it.
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Old April 12 2013, 04:40 AM   #247
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the movie is actually going to premiere April 23 in Australia. I don't know how they expect to keep the plot a secret after this..just beware if you don't want to know anything you will have to go dark by April 22 at the latest...
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Old April 12 2013, 05:00 AM   #248
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I could accept it was an error if it was just her nose (thought that would be one hell of an error) but when she's first seen in issue 2 she's clearly wearing a distinctly Bajoran looking earring. They intended for her to be Bajoran and never did anything with it.
So did they also intend for the Mirror Universe Enterprise to be a movie-style Constitution with a registry of NCC-1701-D? And for the Narada to have 24th-century style Starfleet LCARS displays?

Given the other art errors in IDW's Abramstrek comics, unless the script is ever released I see no reason to assume this wasn't more of the same.
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Old April 12 2013, 01:30 PM   #249
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I could accept it was an error if it was just her nose (thought that would be one hell of an error) but when she's first seen in issue 2 she's clearly wearing a distinctly Bajoran looking earring. They intended for her to be Bajoran and never did anything with it.
So did they also intend for the Mirror Universe Enterprise to be a movie-style Constitution with a registry of NCC-1701-D? And for the Narada to have 24th-century style Starfleet LCARS displays?

Given the other art errors in IDW's Abramstrek comics, unless the script is ever released I see no reason to assume this wasn't more of the same.
Good point, especially with the LCARS displays, which surprisingly show up far too often in the Ongoing series.
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Old April 14 2013, 12:36 AM   #250
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It was fun seeing alternate reality Kor again. I can't remember if he wore the helmet in the Nero comics. And glad for the "cameo" by John Harrison.

At least with April and Mudd alive at the end of the story, it wouldn't surprise me if we see both of them again in the comics. I also wonder if Hendorff will carry a blade in his boot ala Sulu after the prequel events.

Overall, the story felt lackluster. Maybe because Countdown had an epic feel to it and this prequel didn't.
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Old April 14 2013, 01:45 PM   #251
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Just finished issue #4. Meh. Not a great series. With
, i wonder if he will be mentioned in STID at all? Overall...I don't regret buying the issues, but maybe next time i'll trade wait for these "countdown" stories..
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Old April 14 2013, 01:55 PM   #252
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^There probably won't be any mention. The whole "This affair is classified" bit at the end is probably their way of explaining why the events of this story won't be referenced in the movie.
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Old April 14 2013, 02:34 PM   #253
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Overall, the story felt lackluster. Maybe because Countdown had an epic feel to it and this prequel didn't.
I suspect that Mike Johnson and Roberto Orci weren't aiming for "epic." Countdown to Darkness always read to me as the next story arc in the ongoing series. CtD has as much in common with "A Private Little War" as "The Truth About Tribbles" had in common with "The Trouble With Tribbles" or the Mirror Universe storyline had in common with "Mirror, Mirror" -- which is to say that IDW has progressed far beyond rewriting original series episodes and is instead taking ideas and concepts and giving them a wholly unique spin in the film's continuity. IDW probably recognized (quite correctly) that they would get higher sales (and more buzz) if they packaged this storyline as something else, something separate.
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Old April 15 2013, 12:48 AM   #254
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^ I'm glad that they came to that realization. I dropped after the first arc, based on "Where No Man Has Gone Before", which I felt was a a big "meh". I didn't care to read more like that. Maybe I'll give the title another look post-Darkness. That the would seem to be a good point to jump on.
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^I think it was always their intention to start with more faithful adaptations and diverge more and more over time, on the theory that the differences in the timeline would cause accumulating changes. Although that doesn't account for the huge change of these episodes' events taking place 7-10 years earlier than the did in the Prime universe.
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