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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "The Rings of Akhaten"
Geronimo! 15 11.72%
Good 50 39.06%
Average 36 28.13%
Bad 18 14.06%
Terrible 9 7.03%
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Old April 12 2013, 12:38 PM   #271
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Re: 7X07 The Rings of Akhenaten (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!)

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From a plot viewpoint, I can't figure out why Merry thought it was a good idea to pin Clara to the Mummy's display case using telekinesis (at least, that's what it looked like).
I assumed it was the Mummy that did that.
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Old April 12 2013, 01:21 PM   #272
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Is it my imagination or is the car that nearly hit Clara's dad at the start the same car that greased Pete Tyler in Father's Day?
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Old April 12 2013, 01:39 PM   #273
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Is it my imagination or is the car that nearly hit Clara's dad at the start the same car that greased Pete Tyler in Father's Day?
Hmm, didn't make the connection, but given they were both set in the 80s it might just be that it's a decent looking 1980's car the BBC use

Or it could be something more sinister...
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Old April 12 2013, 01:44 PM   #274
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Someone is targeting the dads of the Doctor's companions!
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Old April 12 2013, 01:57 PM   #275
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Is it my imagination or is the car that nearly hit Clara's dad at the start the same car that greased Pete Tyler in Father's Day?
Hmm, didn't make the connection, but given they were both set in the 80s it might just be that it's a decent looking 1980's car the BBC use
That's what I was thinking. I'd have to go look at Father's Day again to be sure, but can't be arsed.
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Old April 12 2013, 02:21 PM   #276
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From a plot viewpoint, I can't figure out why Merry thought it was a good idea to pin Clara to the Mummy's display case using telekinesis (at least, that's what it looked like).
I assumed it was the Mummy that did that.
That's what I thought too, on first watching. It certainly would have made more sense, from a plot viewpoint.

But when I rewatch it, as Clara extends her hand to Merry, the latter furrows her brow and puts her hands to her temples and Clara is pinned to the display case, while Merry glares at her. After the Doctor convinces her "everyone else will be fine" she glances back at Clara and Clara is released.

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Old April 12 2013, 02:54 PM   #277
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Re: 7X07 The Rings of Akhenaten (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!)

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From a plot viewpoint, I can't figure out why Merry thought it was a good idea to pin Clara to the Mummy's display case using telekinesis (at least, that's what it looked like).
I assumed it was the Mummy that did that.
That's what I thought too, on first watching. It certainly would have made more sense, from a plot viewpoint.

But when I rewatch it, as Clara extends her hand to Merry, the latter furrows her brow and puts her hands to her temples and Clara is pinned to the display case, while Merry glares at her. After the Doctor convinces her "everyone else will be fine" she glances back at Clara and Clara is released.
That's the way I saw it, too.

Which, on reflection, makes a little bit of sense. You have a civilization of psychometrists who barter with memories impressed on objects, so you've established there's something psionic about them all. Then there's the odd bit with sound jumping from the asteroid city to the asteroid pyramid thousands of meters away. Even assuming there's an Integral Trees explanation for an atmosphere in that region of space, sound doesn't move that quickly. Yet the Doctor heard the singing pretty much as soon as it started. And the face reacted just as fast. So, in addition to psychometry, these people appear to communicate with their god/parasite planet telepathically.

So telekinesis too? No problem.
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Old April 12 2013, 03:15 PM   #278
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Someone is targeting the dads of the Doctor's companions!
Which seems a tactical error, their mums are far more dangerous!

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Is it my imagination or is the car that nearly hit Clara's dad at the start the same car that greased Pete Tyler in Father's Day?
Hmm, didn't make the connection, but given they were both set in the 80s it might just be that it's a decent looking 1980's car the BBC use
That's what I was thinking. I'd have to go look at Father's Day again to be sure, but can't be arsed.
Fair enough, can't remember the last time I actually watched Father's Day?
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Old April 12 2013, 04:09 PM   #279
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Re: 7X07 The Rings of Akhenaten (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!)

Hey, wasn't Clara's father the guy who ran down Pete Tyler?
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Old April 12 2013, 04:13 PM   #280
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Hey, wasn't Clara's father the guy who ran down Pete Tyler?
Only because Pete turned Clara's mom into a Cybus Auton. You'd run him down too, if he did that to your wife.
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Old April 12 2013, 05:56 PM   #281
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I liked the episode. It wasn't great but wasn't bad, and it was a little rushed.

The celestial body that the monster possesed was a gas giant, not a star. The individual little planetoids were actually satellites, moons if you prefer. There was atmosphere between the moons, like a huge sky with islands floating in it. The closest analogy I've seen was the Flash Gordon movie in 1980, when all of the moons of Mongo and everything in between had air and clouds.

And when the entity was defeated the planet was still there, just like it was before it popped out of the pyramid and flew to the planet. Gravity and atmosphere was not disrupted.

How could anybody think they were flying that little scooter through outer space? There was wind!

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Forgive me for going wibbly-wobbly on everyone here, but might we have just witnessed the birth of the Great Intelligence? The Doctor poured all his memories into it, but it wanted more. So Clara gave it all the things that could have been, but weren't, and then it ... what? Vanished? Died? Went somewhere else? Somewhen else?
I like it! The GI and Clara might have some link between them.

I also wonder if it somehow connects to The Dream Lord, they really never explained where he came from.

Yes, there was pollen in the Tardis or some such explanation, but I think there could be more.


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Why would the TARDIS have a problem with River? The only real reason her story is complicated is because the Doctor always meets her in the wrong order. There is nothing inherently problematic about her existence.

My point was relating to something someone said about Clara being a threat to the Doctor, and clearly River was, technically, a threat to the Doctor as well!
Clara's impossiblility might be a theat to the Tardis somehow. River obviously was a threat to the Doctor, but they got along great. The Tardis didn't want any part of two Amys, so infinite Claras would probably be worse.
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Old April 12 2013, 06:08 PM   #282
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I liked the episode. It wasn't great but wasn't bad, and it was a little rushed.

The celestial body that the monster possesed was a gas giant, not a star. The individual little planetoids were actually satellites, moons if you prefer. There was atmosphere between the moons, like a huge sky with islands floating in it. The closest analogy I've seen was the Flash Gordon movie in 1980, when all of the moons of Mongo and everything in between had air and clouds.

I'm not buying the atmosphere argument. How is that even possible? I'm going with small forcefields around the bike and buildings to keep the air in.

One thing I've not seen mentioned is what happens to all those small moons now that the gas gaint/alien has apparently vanished? Surely with the gravity well gone they're going to start drifting all over the place.
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Someone is targeting the dads of the Doctor's companions!
Which seems a tactical error, their mums are far more dangerous!
But also scarier. Be honest, Jackie is a lot more intimidating than Pete.
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Old April 12 2013, 06:18 PM   #284
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I'm not buying the atmosphere argument. How is that even possible? I'm going with small forcefields around the bike and buildings to keep the air in.

One thing I've not seen mentioned is what happens to all those small moons now that the gas gaint/alien has apparently vanished? Surely with the gravity well gone they're going to start drifting all over the place.
1. If you are watching Dr Who for "possible" please watch something more realistic, like Tom & Jerry.

2. The planet was there before it left the pyramid, and was still there after it was beaten, left, what have you.
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Someone is targeting the dads of the Doctor's companions!
Which seems a tactical error, their mums are far more dangerous!
But also scarier. Be honest, Jackie is a lot more intimidating than Pete.
Exactly!!
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