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Old April 11 2013, 04:26 PM   #31
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Re: final episode...

TATV was a terrible way to end the series (granted its not my favourite, but it did deserve better than that).

The Riker/Troi inserts should have been done from a Titan POV, with them happily living their lives after Nemesis, maybe teaching their children about the formation of the Federation, or something like that. Trying to convince us that they're ten years younger is a bit ridiculous.

As for killing Tucker, the only reason to do it was to stick it to his fans (personally I think killing Archer would have been much better).

As for the personal attacks on Ms Sirtis, there really isn't any need for that.
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Old April 12 2013, 05:51 AM   #32
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Re: final episode...

It wasn't just that Riker and Troi were in the episode, bu the way they (especially Troi) mocked the "quaint-ness" of the NX. Big slap in the face to the fans.

And this is coming from a diehard TNG fan.
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Old April 12 2013, 07:51 AM   #33
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Re: final episode...

It's almost as if the writers are saying "Yeah, even we know the show sucked."
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Old April 12 2013, 08:21 AM   #34
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But it didn't suck.
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Old April 12 2013, 08:43 AM   #35
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I'm not saying it did. Everyone in the audience had so many preconceptions of Life Before Kirk, it was impossible to make them all happy. The worst that can be said is Enterprise failed to live up to expectations, but they did take a few risks.
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Old April 12 2013, 08:46 AM   #36
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Indeed, it just was really bad
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Old April 12 2013, 08:52 AM   #37
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Oh for godsake.
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Old April 12 2013, 10:40 AM   #38
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Re: final episode...

Enterprise had its ups and downs, but TATV is something to simply laugh at and just accept as one of those idiotic brain farts that every TV show has. It's simply nothing worth taking seriously.
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Old April 12 2013, 10:57 AM   #39
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Re: final episode...

Mott the barber wrote: View Post
It wasn't just that Riker and Troi were in the episode, bu the way they (especially Troi) mocked the "quaint-ness" of the NX. Big slap in the face to the fans.

And this is coming from a diehard TNG fan.
I saw that the opposite way. She points out that T'Pol had the same kind of Spock-scope scanner we saw in TOS. And that the NX-01 Enterprise is less advanced than other Trek ships despite all the fanrage that went on claiming it was "too advanced" looking. They were going, "Look fans! We have continuity and our characters think the ship looks less advanced even if you don't!"
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Old April 12 2013, 11:00 AM   #40
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I just saw it as another Troi comment about something she doesn't understand.
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Old April 12 2013, 02:50 PM   #41
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Indeed, it just was really bad
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Old April 12 2013, 07:36 PM   #42
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the only really terrible part of it is the way Trip's death was handled. The rest of the episode is just sort of meh.
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Old April 12 2013, 07:38 PM   #43
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Yeah... let's just randomly kill someone. That'll make it dramatic!
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Old April 12 2013, 07:53 PM   #44
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Re: final episode...

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I met her once and nearly slapped her too.
Why did you almost have to slap her?
Riker is an over bearing self centered tholian sea slug who shouldn't be allowed near a camera.

TRYING to watch TNG but every time he is on screen his legs are so far apart you could park a pickup between them, and there ain't anything particularly special between em either!
How about when he walked and always looked like he was tilted to the side. What was up with that?

Oh, and BTW, TaTV sucked big donkey balls. Everyone knows that.
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Old April 15 2013, 11:41 PM   #45
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The thing is, no matter how good or bad their incorporation is... in this case it was poorly, putting them in the finale -at all- detracts from what it's supposed to be. A celebration of Enterprise's four years and a conclusion to the series. The three captain final frontier speech at the end was beautifully done and would've tied all the Enterprise series together nicely by itself.
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