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Old April 12 2013, 12:24 AM   #61
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Re: Who was the most hated character among fans while DS9 was airing?

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Though I find Quark's attitude about Federation just as hypocritical as the Federation's attitude about the Ferengi.
To a certain extent, I believe, that was intentional. So many people tend to overlook the historical, even current, blemishes of their ancestry or nationalism while condeming others - glass houses and all that. So I feel the hypocrisy was purposeful.
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Old April 12 2013, 10:59 AM   #62
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Though I find Quark's attitude about Federation just as hypocritical as the Federation's attitude about the Ferengi.
To a certain extent, I believe, that was intentional. So many people tend to overlook the historical, even current, blemishes of their ancestry or nationalism while condeming others - glass houses and all that. So I feel the hypocrisy was purposeful.
I thought Garak and Quark's little speech about the Federation in Way of the Warrior was one of DS9's better moments.
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Old April 13 2013, 03:37 PM   #63
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Re: Who was the most hated character among fans while DS9 was airing?

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Though I find Quark's attitude about Federation just as hypocritical as the Federation's attitude about the Ferengi.
To a certain extent, I believe, that was intentional. So many people tend to overlook the historical, even current, blemishes of their ancestry or nationalism while condeming others - glass houses and all that. So I feel the hypocrisy was purposeful.
I thought Garak and Quark's little speech about the Federation in Way of the Warrior was one of DS9's better moments.
The root beer speech was one of DS9's best speeches.
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Old April 14 2013, 07:50 AM   #64
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Re: Who was the most hated character among fans while DS9 was airing?

Yes, that and Eddington's which I loved.
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Old April 14 2013, 04:52 PM   #65
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Yes, that and Eddington's which I loved.
The Eddington speech was great.
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Old April 15 2013, 02:10 AM   #66
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Re: Who was the most hated character among fans while DS9 was airing?

Oh... I realized... my personal most hated character is the Kai Winn. I'm mid-way through Season 3. Don't know if she changes later on, but right now I cannot stand her. I know she is meant to be disliked, but either way I seriously do not like her at all... so unworthy of the position.

I haven't peeked much at upcoming episodes, so forgive me if she changes later on in the show.
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Old April 15 2013, 05:46 AM   #67
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Out of all the characters, Winn is the most fun to hate.

She's not arbitrarily nasty for no reason like many of the villains. She's a politician, and she'll do absolutely anything to stay in power. You hate her like you hate real politicians, and IMO, that's awesome.

She would totally block a gun control bill just because it made her look bad to her constituents.
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Old April 15 2013, 01:56 PM   #68
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Agree with that. Winn was someone you could love to hate because she was realistic. (The same was true for Dukat for a long time until they turned him into the space Antichrist, because the realism went, the individuality went.)
Personally I liked Julain right from the start, even though apparently I wasn't "meant" to (I think the writers intended for the audience's reactions to him to mirror those of O'Brien). I also liked Rom right away. His stupidity had a quality about it that was far too endearing to make him annoying. (Also it later turned out he's amazingly clever in certain things - the idiot savant.)

I couldn't stand Ezri, not because the actress is doing a bad job or the character is inherently unlikeable, but just because she was a bad replacement for Jadzia. I think they should've been courageous enough, having killed off a main character, to simply let her death stand as is. Also didn't like Zek, because of all the Ferengi he was the one who came out too much on the wrong side of caricature.
Plus is there anyone else who thinks that that damned singing hologram was really unnecessary?
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Old April 15 2013, 01:57 PM   #69
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I adore Winn, Louise Fletcher is a joy to watch. Incredible performance. One of my favorite ever characters.
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Old April 17 2013, 11:53 PM   #70
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What about Vic Fontaine? I can't imagine he was a well-loved character.
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Old April 18 2013, 12:17 AM   #71
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Yes, that and Eddington's which I loved.
The Eddington speech was great.
I liked Eddington. The extra who wouldn't be ignored!

As for Kai Winn... sure you hated her, that was the point. She was oh so syrupy and fake in her politeness, while she's plotting her next evil scheme, but rarely actually crossed the line where she had to be dealt with, at least until Dukat dragged her over it after he was done occupying Bajor one more time.

Vic? Eh.. didn't really hate him... just didn't care period. He's alright, he can sing well, but beyond that he's really just a distraction. One song now and again is alright, but in His Way where he's literally singing for HALF the episode, that grated on me. Not what I want when I turn on a sci-fi show. Though to be fair, he was great with Nog in It's Only a Paper Moon.
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Old April 18 2013, 04:04 AM   #72
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I found the Ferengi episodes boring...
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Old April 18 2013, 05:16 AM   #73
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I hated Mirror Kira the most. Jadzia Dax was also grating since she was kind of everywhere in the early seasons, before they settled on Kilingon lifestyle enthusiast.
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Old April 18 2013, 11:32 AM   #74
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What about Vic Fontaine? I can't imagine he was a well-loved character.
I wasn't really a fan of Vic Fontaine but I also absolutely hate the 1950s - 1960s gangster era (for the record, I am a huge fan of old 20s-40s ear gangster genre). To me it was all so chinzy and...I don't know...just gross, the decor, the music, the "gangsters", everything.

I'm sure if Vic Fontaine's nightclub was set in a earlier period I would have liked it, but then he wouldn't have been able to make his references to the Rat Pack and other icons of that time.

So for me....meh.
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Old April 18 2013, 11:58 AM   #75
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Mirror Kira
Whoever came up with that was an idiot.

You would think that having a sex mad bisexual dominatrix on Star Trek would be a good thing. But no.. awful. Sometimes rose to glorious camp BUT it shouldn't have had to rise to that, glorious camp should have been the starting point!

I'll admit it. I make it glorious camp in my head because I want it to work.

(No slam on Nana Visitor who played the part well)
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