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Old April 10 2013, 10:34 PM   #166
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Re: Roger Ebert is dead...

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I think you mistook my tone for disgust. I was actually amused.

Damn.
I think you've mistaken everyone's tone for actually wanting to listen to more of your whining or "amused" commentary when in reality they'd all just prefer it if you'd shut the hell up or at least start another thread. But you're committed now so you won't do that. Can't lose face in this stupid quest to prove whatever the hell it is you're trying to prove.

You're dragging people who plainly aren't even interested in a political debate in this case and who never got involved in the political argument before (like auntiehill) into your hyper-partisan bullshit where even someone who is only extremely peripherally related to politics like Roger Ebert is now some lightning rod of liberal thought. She was just posting a nice memorial commentary on his life that itself was only barely politically related, but you are so petty you couldn't resist making another dig.

Ebert rarely made some political comments in relevant movie reviews and an occasional editorial. He's not Marx or even Michael Moore. Do you have to sort everything through the prism of right and left? I can understand the commentary if it was someone who was actually a prominent political figure, but Roger Ebert? Seriously? Can't you just say something nice about his movie reviews without acting like a jerk, or failing that, don't say anything at all?

And no, in anticipation of your inevitable and no doubt annoying (if your previous comments are any indication) comeback, I don't give a shit what some liberal said in some barely conservative actor's or reviewer's memorial thread in the past. They're not me. I'm not responsible for every other liberal's comments in the past and it's not hypocrisy to point out something I disagree with even if another liberal (or conservative in your case) has done it. We're all individuals, so taking what auntiehill posted and dragging it into your or anyone else's political nonsense was out of line, as has been the entire fucking tangent about politics in this thread.

You can try and say this post is contributing to the disrespect of a memorial thread, but that ship sailed long before I even posted, first with some pedantic fuckwittery over the perfectly acceptable title and then with people who probably can't even eat a bowl of cereal in the morning without knowing Tony the Tiger's or Count Chocula's political stances. If having to see a half-paragraph respectfully stated commentary on healthcare accessibility that doesn't denounce anyone and is in a review of a movie about healthcare makes your blood boil, then you need to get a fucking grip.
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Old April 10 2013, 11:06 PM   #167
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it's weird to moan about a eberts 'liberal' politics while having an avatar from a show by david lynch, who votes democrat.
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Old April 10 2013, 11:16 PM   #168
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Can we just drop all the political bullshit, please?....There's lovely article at the Chicago Tribune about Roger's funeral---HERE.
There's a certain irony in asking to drop "political bullshit" and then linking to a "lovely" story about, among other things, Ebert's political views and eulogies from various politicians.
Be a man and bring it to TNZ. Otherwise, stick to the topic and if you can't, shut the hell up.
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Old April 10 2013, 11:51 PM   #169
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I printed out Ebert's 300 Great Movies list, and will be going through checking off what I've seen, and then working towards seeing the rest of them.
Might I suggest considering keeping track through letterboxd? The list has been bannered at the top of the main page since Ebert's death was announced.
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Old April 11 2013, 12:12 AM   #170
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One of my favorite writers. I wanted to write something about him for my column at Drunk Monkeys, and this was the best I could come up with:

http://www.drunkmonkeys.onimpression...movie-rodeo-4/

I still feel like we lost a great writer and proponent of film.
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Old April 11 2013, 01:26 AM   #171
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There's a certain irony in asking to drop "political bullshit" and then linking to a "lovely" story about, among other things, Ebert's political views and eulogies from various politicians.
That word. Irony.

I do not think it means what you think it means.
To be fair, Morrisette didn't understand it either. Which ends up being the only thing ironic about her song. All her examples were merely unfortunate
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Old April 11 2013, 02:12 AM   #172
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PsychoPere wrote: View Post
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I printed out Ebert's 300 Great Movies list, and will be going through checking off what I've seen, and then working towards seeing the rest of them.
Might I suggest considering keeping track through letterboxd? The list has been bannered at the top of the main page since Ebert's death was announced.
Ooh, nice! Thank you!
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Old April 11 2013, 02:27 AM   #173
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To be fair, Morrisette didn't understand it either. Which ends up being the only thing ironic about her song. All her examples were merely unfortunate
Yeah, it was a running joke between myself and a couple of friends back in 1995 and 1996 that the Alanis song wasn't actually about irony, just unfortunate timing and bad luck. Jagged Little Pill was a pretty great little album that we all enjoyed, but we couldn't pass up making fun of the video when it played on TV.
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Old April 11 2013, 02:57 AM   #174
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Can we just drop all the political bullshit, please?....There's lovely article at the Chicago Tribune about Roger's funeral---HERE.
There's a certain irony in asking to drop "political bullshit" and then linking to a "lovely" story about, among other things, Ebert's political views and eulogies from various politicians.
Be a man and bring it to TNZ. Otherwise, stick to the topic and if you can't, shut the hell up.
But that's where the scary liberals live. They may defeat conservative ideals with facts and reality, he can't go there.

I need to start collecting all of Ebert's bad reviews. He could really tear into a movie if he hated it enough. His review of North is just amazing.
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Old April 11 2013, 03:12 AM   #175
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He could really tear into a movie if he hated it enough. His review of North is just amazing.
Which is, of course, the real reason for objecting to someone like Ebert writing about politics: his wit and effectiveness. The kind of folks who object generally prefer fixed fights.
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Old April 11 2013, 03:32 AM   #176
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You'd think that after a while if you keep getting easily beaten by smart people you'd at least try to change things a little.
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Old April 11 2013, 04:11 AM   #177
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I need to start collecting all of Ebert's bad reviews. He could really tear into a movie if he hated it enough. His review of North is just amazing.
He published three collections of his negative reviews: I Hated, Hated, HATED This Movie; Your Movie Sucks; and last year's A Horrible Experience of Unbearable Length. Yeah, they're all up on his website for free, but there's something about having them in print.
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Old April 11 2013, 04:41 AM   #178
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I might have to buy them. I want something to read when society collapses and be reminded of the internet.
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Old April 11 2013, 05:18 AM   #179
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Be a man and bring it to TNZ...
Yes because nobody but me has ever brought up politics outside of TNZ

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it's weird to moan about a eberts 'liberal' politics while having an avatar from a show by david lynch, who votes democrat.
I did not moan about Eberts liberal politics.

I discussed the hypocrisy of some posters who seemed to defend inserting politics in writing when it was a liberal viewpoint but not a conservative viewpoint.

Never in this thread have I attacked either the man or his politics.

The worst thing I said about Ebert on this thread was that hypothetically some people could take issue with some of his positions as strongly as some of the posters here took issue with Orson Scott Card.

Disagree with me if you want. reasonable people can do that, but at least disagree with what I actually wrote.
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Old April 11 2013, 06:59 AM   #180
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Regardless, you've dragged the topic away from being a memorial to Ebert in order to pursue some silly agenda. Bravo, good sir. You must be a great guy to have at a funeral.
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