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Old April 2 2013, 05:39 PM   #91
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Re: Janeway Delta Quadrant BUN

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Frakes born in '52, Beltran & Picardo '53, Stewart '40, Shatman '31.

dadadadadadadada Shatman!

I'm getting punchy because I've been awake 20 hours.
We should conduct a "Who still looks dateable?" poll.
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Old April 2 2013, 11:42 PM   #92
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Re: Janeway Delta Quadrant BUN

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OP is stepping on dangerous territory!
Janeway is sexy, bun or no bun!!!!
Even I know better than to insult the sexy Janeway crowd. You just back away quietly and hope they don't direct their Janeway remarks at you. It's kinda like saying Jesus slept with the prostitute, no matter if it's true or not, the argument just doesn't end well!
But if you kind of halfway admit that she looked sorta hot in one scene when you were watching VOY drunk we will embrace you as one of us and you will never be alone again.
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Standards and Baselines need to be shaken up. Not that this happened on Voyager..

Anyway Season 4 hair. A lot of people prefer Season 5 which was a bit longer but I'm a Season 4 girl. I have a flickr folder called Season 4 Hair, such is my devotion.

And since you asked, yes I will share something from it.

THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!! There is no GODCRAM reason for not using a simple style like this from JUMPSTREET. She is GORGEOUS here.. strong.. powerful.. Someone id follow into the gates of ...sickbay..
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Apparently some people actually find him a gorgeous hunk of a man?

I don't get it at all.
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Frakes born in '52, Beltran & Picardo '53, Stewart '40, Shatman '31.

dadadadadadadada Shatman!

I'm getting punchy because I've been awake 20 hours.
We should conduct a "Who still looks dateable?" poll.
Met Frakes last year and yes, I'd date him in a heart beat! ETA... IF he was single!

R. Star...I'm soooo glad that we have established "thou shalt not decry the sexiness of the Auburn Queen of Voyager" to your satisfaction.

Also glad to see Teacake is still handing out the gin rickies to deserving souls!"

As for the OP's original point... he/she can blame that on TPTB. They actually shot for a couple days with Mulgrew in a simple shoulder length hair cut but decided it didn't give her enough gravitas and reshot all those scene with the bun.

See photo #3

http://trekweb.com/articles/2009/07/...-Janeway.shtml

The very first bun was too severe... I really liked the softer version seen in season 2 - 3 (IIRC...think "The Chute").
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Old April 2 2013, 11:46 PM   #93
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Re: Janeway Delta Quadrant BUN

I think Frakes looks fine, but I think most everyone looks fine. The only people who don't look good to me as they age are the ones that have trashed themselves with drugs or starved themselves into gauntness.

Frakes is coming to Melbourne in Feb next year, YAY!!! But the real YAY for me is Robert McNeill is also coming to the same con
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Old April 10 2013, 08:38 PM   #94
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Re: Janeway Delta Quadrant BUN

This thread kinda proves the producers of voyager were right to have panic about Janeway´s hair. It apparantly IS a big deal.

However: I liked it short!
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Old April 10 2013, 09:02 PM   #95
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Re: Janeway Delta Quadrant BUN

I prefer the short hairstyle over the bun, too. Janeway's too kick-ass a character for such a scholarly look.

While we're on the subject of hair, though, how the heck did Kes go from a pixie cut to those long Lady Godiva locks overnight?
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Old April 10 2013, 10:20 PM   #96
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While we're on the subject of hair, though, how the heck did Kes go from a pixie cut to those long Lady Godiva locks overnight?
That was due to Jennifer's skin being sensitive to the Ocampa ear appliance, so they just hid them with long hair.
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Old April 10 2013, 10:37 PM   #97
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Yeah, I knew that she was allergic to the prosthetics. I just found it really jarring when her hair grew nearly a foot between episodes.
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Old April 10 2013, 11:08 PM   #98
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Not a fan of her with long hair. But not really a Kes fan anyway.
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Old April 10 2013, 11:12 PM   #99
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Re: Janeway Delta Quadrant BUN

I liked Kes. She was sweet. Boring, but sweet. And the Doc probably wouldn't have grown much as an individual without her encouragement.

But I didn't like her long hair, either. She looked kind of like a cocker spaniel.
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Old April 12 2013, 11:11 PM   #100
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I actually liked the change in her hair style, it felt like "she" was growing, not just her hair.

I really wish they had allowed her to age appropriate to the Ocampan life span, marry, give birth and (sob sniff honk) even die of old age just before/just as Voyager returned to the Alpha quadrant. In 2000 I did a trilogy fanfic predicting how Voy should end... (posted the 1st part here last year in our "let's make a Voy movie" thread) that basically did just that (the aging, not the dying).

The 1st part (Out of the Mouths of Babes) faded out on the "long haired" blonde that took command of the Aerowing as it ran into the sun.

Part 2 told us what happened to her after she left Voyager the FIRST time, explained away the "character assasination" of season 5... and gave us one more final J/K parting.

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From Eyes Open (part 2 of 3)

(Kes looks at Janeway with sadness before looking quickly away)

Kes: Today is the day I know you have been working for... longing for... for nearly 8 years. And at the same time, its the one I've dreaded for the last 8 months.\

(Janeway steps up to stand next to Kes, while they survey the lake. She nods in agreement)

Janeway: (Quietly) The day we say "goodbye".

(Kes turns her face up to see Janeway's and finds the wind is drying the tears welling up in the Captain's eyes)

Kes: You asked me once, twice... "not" to leave. I know now, how you felt.

(Janeway gazes honestly into Kes' eyes)

Janeway: It's never easy to say goodbye to someone you've come to love like family. I wish...

(A catch can be heard in her voice)

...I wish I could ease the pain by saying, "I'll be back".

(Kes looks into Kathryn's heart and tries to give her strength)

Kes: But we both know... Kathryn, that even if you DO somehow make it back... I may not be here.

(Kes smiles ruefully)

Afterall... I'll celebrate my ninth birthday in 4 months....

(Kes sighs and looks back across the lake at the whitecaps gracing it)

(Silence)

Janeway: I remember the First time I ever saw you. Not quite One year old... standing in that Kazon Camp listening to Jabin denigrate your race. You looked... "so serene".... and I remember thinking, "How little" this Kazon knew of the woman he so blithely dismissed.

(Kes smiles through her tears, at this "ancient" memory)

Kes: I remember that day. I remember thinking, "how odd". In the month I'd been held prisoner there, I never saw a woman dispute a Kazon male and NEVER saw ANYONE dispute Jabin. And then you appeared, like magic. A woman, leading all these men, confronting Jabin in his camp.

(Kes turns confidentially towards Janeway)

I have to admit, I always loved it whenever you "took charge" of a situation. From that first day in the camp... to that last day we met on the Caretaker's Voyager.

(Kes closes her eyes and gently rocks in time with her memories)

I've often dreamt of that last day.... When you and Tuvok walked into Engineering after my holorecording was played.

(She opens her eyes and looks at Janeway)

You walked forward, hand on your phaser, calmly talking... and when you pulled it out, I was "Sure" it was a trick and that I was dead.

(She sees the tears of memory start to fill Kathryn's eyes)

But instead of using it on me, you handed it to Tuvok and kept walking towards me, unarmed... except for your voice.

(Kes shakes her head)

It was so strange... but the Caretaker's hold on my mind as you walked towards me, it lifted like a morning fog in the face of a dawing sun and as my mind cleared...

(she chuckles at her hubris)

...I was astonished, embarrassed, you name it, at how EASY it was for him to co-opt my consciousness, at how easy it was for him to control me again,

(Kes reaches out and offers Kathryn her hand, which she takes gladly)

and how the people "I" had tried to rescue,

(Kes smiles)

had instead rescued me.

Again.

Thank-you, Kathryn, for not giving up on me.

(Janeway pulls Kes into an embrace as the Captain's tears run furiously down her face)

Janeway: Thank ME? No... Kes... THANK-YOU for not giving up on US!
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Old April 13 2013, 10:35 PM   #101
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Don't know if it's been mentioned already but my favourite Janeway hairstyle was the one in Cathexis, shame it didn't last vey long!
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Old April 14 2013, 04:38 AM   #102
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In the holodeck or outside the holodeck?
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Old April 14 2013, 04:45 AM   #103
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You mean this one?

Or this one, which seems to be EXACTLY like Seven's:
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Old April 14 2013, 05:45 AM   #104
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She looked much more authoritative with the bun. When she cut it short, it was too soccer-mom. Her bun was like Riker's beard.

What I liked best about the bun was that it was like a Master Systems Display made of hair. When the ship was doing fine, the bun was immaculate. When the ship had hull breaches, primary power loss and was venting plasma, the bun unraveled.
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Old April 14 2013, 05:48 AM   #105
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LOL I know someone who is just now watching VOY as their first Trek series (got into Trek via ST:XI) and he is almost done with season 3. He made this exact comment about her hair and the status of the ship which he thought was hilarious.
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