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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "The Rings of Akhaten"
Geronimo! 15 11.72%
Good 50 39.06%
Average 36 28.13%
Bad 18 14.06%
Terrible 9 7.03%
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Old April 9 2013, 08:23 PM   #241
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Re: 7X07 The Rings of Akhenaten (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!)

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I missed the Susan reference. What was it and when in the episode?
Shortly after they arrived the Doctor mentioned he was there before with his granddaughter...Right before he takes off and Clara bumps into the little girl for the first time.
Ah, thanks!
I think Clara saying the Tardis didn't like her was for Merry to make light of the situation.
I thought I heard Clara say "he" doesn't like me. Maybe I misunderstood. If she did say "he," then she's either unaware of the TARDIS gender (yet thinks the TARDIS should have gender), or she was referring to the Doctor.
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Old April 9 2013, 08:32 PM   #242
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I think Clara saying the Tardis didn't like her was for Merry to make light of the situation.
Think it all you like, there was a reason that the writers had her say that exact line. And since no one at all laughed at it or otherwise showed any indiciation of "making light of the situation," not even with musical cues, it's a safe bet to say that you're very much wrong here.
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Old April 9 2013, 08:45 PM   #243
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I think Clara saying the Tardis didn't like her was for Merry to make light of the situation.
Think it all you like, there was a reason that the writers had her say that exact line. And since no one at all laughed at it or otherwise showed any indiciation of "making light of the situation," not even with musical cues, it's a safe bet to say that you're very much wrong here.
I pretty much agree here. The TARDIS can see across all time & space. She knows exactly who/what Clara is and already knows if she is going to hurt the Doctor or is being used for that purpose.
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Old April 9 2013, 09:41 PM   #244
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She didn't seem to mind River though?

By the way did anyone else wonder if the Doctor was going to use his glasses as money? Those are Amy's specs aren't they? Or am I mistaken?
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Old April 9 2013, 09:46 PM   #245
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Did i see this wrong or was she not understanding the alien language, i thought the tardis automatically translated all alien languages for anybody who travelled in it.

Or have i got this wrong.
Remember that Clara felt the TARDIS didn't like her, as it wouldn't let her back inside.
The TARDIS was probably like "Barking, really? I just can't be bothered. Uh, moped, whatever...happy?"
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Old April 9 2013, 09:51 PM   #246
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We have Clara's belief, but that doesn't mean the Tardis doesn't like her. I guess this will be clarified further in the Journey to the Center of the Tardis episode.
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Old April 9 2013, 11:24 PM   #247
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She didn't seem to mind River though?
Good point. Maybe the plot requires it now?

By the way did anyone else wonder if the Doctor was going to use his glasses as money? Those are Amy's specs aren't they? Or am I mistaken?
They sure look like the same ones.
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Old April 9 2013, 11:27 PM   #248
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The flying through space in that scooter exposed to the vaccume, without the TARDIS to project and air corridor or or gravity bubble - or no mention that the "scooter" was capable of projecting one - really bugged me.

(I was wondering if maybe the idea was either that the scooter *projected* a "gravity bubble...or the ring system was something like the "smoke ring" in Lary Nivin's "The Smoke Ring" and the Integril Trees", and it had an atmosphere...?)

I also didn't like seeing the "planet" that the rings orbited just vanish, and no one worry what the rings were going to orbit now!?

Perhaps the ring is some artifically maintained system with air and gravity - to keep the ring in orbit - and such...but if it was supposed to be, imo, the most likely source for generating and maintaining all of that was the being/"planet" in the center...and when it vanished, well...

It just seemed like sloppy and careless writing to me - and a lot of it could be explained away or accounted for in a short line or two of exposition.
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Old April 10 2013, 12:05 AM   #249
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Regarding language, quite a bit of it was translated. Perhaps not consistently so, but certainly more than it would be if it was translating nothing.

The TARDIS doesn't translate everything, after all. I mean the Doctor speaks Horse, but the TARDIS didn't start translating the horse, did it?
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Old April 10 2013, 12:47 AM   #250
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Regarding language, quite a bit of it was translated. Perhaps not consistently so, but certainly more than it would be if it was translating nothing.

The TARDIS doesn't translate everything, after all. I mean the Doctor speaks Horse, but the TARDIS didn't start translating the horse, did it?
And let's not forget baby that he was speaking to Stormageddon
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Old April 10 2013, 02:32 AM   #251
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The flying through space in that scooter exposed to the vaccume, without the TARDIS to project and air corridor or or gravity bubble - or no mention that the "scooter" was capable of projecting one - really bugged me.
Doctor Who is not Star Trek. The series is not big on technobabble. If the Doctor is flying through space on a scooter, and that doesn't kill him, there's no need to mention that somehow the scooter is protecting him: it's obvious.
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Old April 10 2013, 03:19 AM   #252
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Did i see this wrong or was she not understanding the alien language, i thought the tardis automatically translated all alien languages for anybody who travelled in it.

Or have i got this wrong.
The TARDIS never translates the Judoon, they have to translate themselves. Although RTD explains in The Writer's Tale the Judoon aren't intelligent enough for the TARDIS to consider them sentient, so it doesn't translate their language. Maybe it's a similar situation here, the TARDIS is only translating aliens with a certain IQ?
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Old April 10 2013, 03:22 AM   #253
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The flying through space in that scooter exposed to the vaccume, without the TARDIS to project and air corridor or or gravity bubble - or no mention that the "scooter" was capable of projecting one - really bugged me.
Doctor Who is not Star Trek. The series is not big on technobabble. If the Doctor is flying through space on a scooter, and that doesn't kill him, there's no need to mention that somehow the scooter is protecting him: it's obvious.
It isn't technobabble to provide explanations to reasonable questions. Amy asked "What are we breathing?" when dangling from the TARDIS in "The Beast Below", and the Doctor gave a reasonable, non technobabble explanation.

In this case, we were shown an entire system that seemed to have a breathable atmosphere where it should have been open space. As bryce noted, like Niven's The Integral Trees. Not only that, but the apparently earthlike environment on those asteroids included normal gravity. Anyone with a third-grade grounding in science should have been wondering what was going on there. Why didn't Clara? One of the reasons for a companion in the show is to ask the questions the audience must be asking.
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Old April 10 2013, 03:41 AM   #254
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Think the 1st 2 epsiode of the 2nd half of season 7 werent that great,got a feeling the rest of the season isnt goin to be as god as the first half was.
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Old April 10 2013, 03:42 AM   #255
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Anyone with a third-grade grounding in science should have been wondering what was going on there. Why didn't Clara? One of the reasons for a companion in the show is to ask the questions the audience must be asking.
"I've been wondering... what are midi-chlorians?"

No, really, that doesn't sound like a scene I may have been interested in watching.
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