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Old April 8 2013, 09:46 AM   #31
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Re: Paul McGann special year possible?

The trouble arises if the stop gap proves more popular than the current incumbant? What would have happened if Tennant went off to do Hamlet and while he was gone everyone loved McGann more? Plus to the majority of viewers you're effectively introducing McGann as a brand new Doctor, but then saying he's only going to be around for a few episodes before Tennant/Smith returns.

Doing prequels is fine if you don't have anywhere to take the characters on going forward, but Who has that, you just change Doctor.
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Old April 8 2013, 10:13 AM   #32
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^Yeah, I think I may have raised the point about the popularity of the stopgap in my earlier post in the thread. And you're right about the 'going forward' point too - the LOTSW and OFAH prequels were made as the ageing and/or expensive casts of the originals meant limited shelf lives for them.

I do think that the prospect raised by this thread is unlikely in the extreme. But then again, Who has shown that almost anything is possible.
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Old April 8 2013, 10:37 AM   #33
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This is very true.
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Old April 8 2013, 01:53 PM   #34
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Probably the best opportunity would have been,as Christopher suggested, when Tennant was doing stagework, as a sort of stopgap.
The misconception everyone seems to have is that Tennant's Shakespeare thing was the reason for the "gap year" in 2009. RTD had in fact planned during production of the second season to take a break after the fourth season. Tennant was made aware of these plans and arranged the Shakespeare thing because he knew he had a free year coming up. In fact, RTD says that had he stayed with the show there would have been a gap year after every fourth season.
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Old April 8 2013, 02:11 PM   #35
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I think the gap year was in theory a good idea, I just think the execution was poor, the specials just seemed to be scattered willy-nilly, I'd have rather had a five concecutive day run like Torchwood COE.
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Old April 8 2013, 02:27 PM   #36
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I think the gap year was in theory a good idea, I just think the execution was poor, the specials just seemed to be scattered willy-nilly, I'd have rather had a five concecutive day run like Torchwood COE.
In hindsight, the gap year was arguably a very bad idea - they had trouble getting funding for the specials, it damaged the income from tie-in sales (Character Options' profits slumped), may have broken the viewing habit among children, lost the show momentum in the overseas markets, and more...
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Old April 8 2013, 02:56 PM   #37
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I think the gap year was in theory a good idea, I just think the execution was poor, the specials just seemed to be scattered willy-nilly, I'd have rather had a five concecutive day run like Torchwood COE.
In hindsight, the gap year was arguably a very bad idea - they had trouble getting funding for the specials, it damaged the income from tie-in sales (Character Options' profits slumped), may have broken the viewing habit among children, lost the show momentum in the overseas markets, and more...
I can't disagree with that, but I still wonder if it had been handled better those downsides could have been avoided, and I certainly think RTD had a good point, to give the show a breather every x-years to try and keep it fresh.
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Old April 8 2013, 03:58 PM   #38
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^Simple enough -- just bring in a different producer to handle the off-year fill-in series. The difference in perspectives would've itself helped keep things creatively fresh.
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Old April 9 2013, 02:44 AM   #39
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I think the gap year was in theory a good idea, I just think the execution was poor, the specials just seemed to be scattered willy-nilly, I'd have rather had a five concecutive day run like Torchwood COE.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the five night event that Children of Earth was. Though that's primarily because the week that aired was the worse possible week for me to be staying up to watch TV every night. Hell, the whole ordeal soured my opinion of COE to the point that it wasn't until I rewatched it on DVD last year (or rather very late 2011) that I actually saw why everyone praises it.

But, yeah, I agree the way the DW specials were aired was kind of sloppy. Planet of the Dead in April, then nothing until November. I'd have had the specials spaced a lot more even. Say one in spring, another in summer, another in fall, and then the Christmas special.

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In hindsight, the gap year was arguably a very bad idea - they had trouble getting funding for the specials, it damaged the income from tie-in sales (Character Options' profits slumped), may have broken the viewing habit among children, lost the show momentum in the overseas markets, and more...
I don't know about overseas markets. At the very least, it was in 2009, starting with The Next Doctor that the show moved to BBC America in the US, and Space in Canada. A move that has done much to raise the popularity of the show in both countries. Granted, much of that is probably more a by-product of Smith starting a year later, but still.
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Old April 9 2013, 03:36 AM   #40
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I liked the way Children of Earth was presented. It was a story that covered five days, one day per episode, and it was aired over five days, so it was more or less in real time, which was interesting. And it made it more intense than if it were spread out over five weeks.
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Old April 9 2013, 09:51 AM   #41
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But, yeah, I agree the way the DW specials were aired was kind of sloppy. Planet of the Dead in April, then nothing until November. I'd have had the specials spaced a lot more even. Say one in spring, another in summer, another in fall, and then the Christmas special.
Yeah and they're not linked together. I don't know how viable it would have been but I'd have scaled them back to 45 minutes and tried to squeeze a third one in the middle, there's really no reason why either ep is an hour long, both are v padded. I'd have had Cristina go with the Doctor at the end of PotD, but then I'd have had something bad happen to her in the new middle episode, which then leads into WoM and gives added impetus to the whole Timelord Victorious malarky.
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I'd have had Cristina go with the Doctor at the end of PotD, but then I'd have had something bad happen to her in the new middle episode, which then leads into WoM and gives added impetus to the whole Timelord Victorious malarky.
I also would have had Christina go with the Doctor at the end of "Planet of the Dead," and then when they visit Bowie Base One she gets infected by the water. This would make the Doctor feel especially helpless (he can't save Christina, he can't save the base), and that's what kicks him over into Time Lord Victorious mode.
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Old April 9 2013, 12:55 PM   #43
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Yeah that would have worked and you wouldn't have needed a middle episode!
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I liked the way Children of Earth was presented. It was a story that covered five days, one day per episode, and it was aired over five days, so it was more or less in real time, which was interesting. And it made it more intense than if it were spread out over five weeks.
The BBC does this not infrequently, but it's usually with more mainstream fare, such as crime dramas. IIRC, this was the first time they did it with a sci-fi series, certainly the first that I remember.

And yes, the premise of COE was helped greatly by this airing.
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I'd have had Cristina go with the Doctor at the end of PotD, but then I'd have had something bad happen to her in the new middle episode, which then leads into WoM and gives added impetus to the whole Timelord Victorious malarky.
I also would have had Christina go with the Doctor at the end of "Planet of the Dead," and then when they visit Bowie Base One she gets infected by the water. This would make the Doctor feel especially helpless (he can't save Christina, he can't save the base), and that's what kicks him over into Time Lord Victorious mode.
Yeah, thats a good idea. Although annother good idea would be to have her depart at the end of time after the doctor regenerates ad she's scared off or something. Or I'd have just given him a new permanent companion which would have gone onto the post Tennant era. Maybe have Amy Pond introduced after the xmas special.
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