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Old April 9 2013, 02:00 AM   #76
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And the price of those three division titles (and the subsequent first-round flounces) was the absolute destruction of the team's developmental system through trades and shitty drafting, and a bunch of bad money that new management had / has to deal with. Hendry mortgaged the future in a vain attempt to win with a marginal core that basically lucked into / fell ass-backwards into the playoffs during those runs, and it was absolutely the wrong way to go.
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Old April 9 2013, 02:12 AM   #77
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J. Upton is three for three tonight with his sixth home run. Prado better get cracking in Arizona.
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Old April 9 2013, 02:15 AM   #78
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And the price of those three division titles (and the subsequent first-round flounces) was the absolute destruction of the team's developmental system through trades and shitty drafting, and a bunch of bad money that new management had / has to deal with. Hendry mortgaged the future in a vain attempt to win with a marginal core that basically lucked into / fell ass-backwards into the playoffs during those runs, and it was absolutely the wrong way to go.
I wasn't arguing that. But it was what he was brought in to do. Win now... well you have to trade something for that. I just never thought it was particularly fair to give the man the job, tell him how to do it, then complain later on when it blows up in your face. But life's not fair... 2-5 is testament enough to that.
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Old April 9 2013, 02:17 AM   #79
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I'm going to try to inject a topic for discussion. Who do you all consider the best manager in baseball? I'm going to go with Joe Maddon. I don't think there is a guy that gets more out of players than him. While the Yankees and Red Sox spend truck loads of cash on established players the Rays constantly remain competitive in a very tough division.
The impact of a manager upon wins and losses, beyond setting the lineup and making pitching changes, is generally highly overrated. In Tampa Bay's case, their continued success is due to Josh Friedman being a wizard. But Maddon is a pretty solid guy and I have a lot of respect for how open he is to new-ish statistical analysis, as well as his willingness to try crazy shit with the lineup.

Historically, I would say Earl Weaver. Present-day, it would probably come down to Maddon, Ron Roenicke and maybe Bob Melvin.
I can't argue with any of that. Bob Melvin is another solid choice. A lot of it has to do with the atmosphere of the locker room, knowing when to let a guy work through a slump, spreading out playing time, managing rest. People don't know good managing when they see it but they sure as hell can tell when someone is shitting the bed, i.e. Valentine, Bobby; Guillen, Ozzie
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Old April 9 2013, 02:52 PM   #80
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Justin Upton = 6 Yicketties
The Marlins = 2 Dingers
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Old April 9 2013, 09:13 PM   #81
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Old April 9 2013, 09:31 PM   #82
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Justin Upton = 6 Yicketties
The Marlins = 2 Dingers
Their lineup is so, so bad. I mean, look at this. Look.

1. J. Pierre, LF
2. C. Coghlan, CF
3. G. Stanton, RF
4. P. Polanco, 3B
5. G. Dobbs, 1B
6. D. Solano, 2B
7. R. Brantly, C
8. A. Hechavarria, SS
9. W. LeBlanc, P

That isn't a lineup. That's an abomination unto the Lord.
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Old April 9 2013, 10:53 PM   #83
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Justin Upton = 6 Yicketties
The Marlins = 2 Dingers
Their lineup is so, so bad. I mean, look at this. Look.

1. J. Pierre, LF
2. C. Coghlan, CF
3. G. Stanton, RF
4. P. Polanco, 3B
5. G. Dobbs, 1B
6. D. Solano, 2B
7. R. Brantly, C
8. A. Hechavarria, SS
9. W. LeBlanc, P

That isn't a lineup. That's an abomination unto the Lord.
If Stanton doesn't end up setting the Major League record for walks in a season I'll be shocked.
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Old April 9 2013, 11:57 PM   #84
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Justin Upton = 6 Yicketties
The Marlins = 2 Dingers
Their lineup is so, so bad. I mean, look at this. Look.

1. J. Pierre, LF
2. C. Coghlan, CF
3. G. Stanton, RF
4. P. Polanco, 3B
5. G. Dobbs, 1B
6. D. Solano, 2B
7. R. Brantly, C
8. A. Hechavarria, SS
9. W. LeBlanc, P

That isn't a lineup. That's an abomination unto the Lord.
If Stanton doesn't end up setting the Major League record for walks in a season I'll be shocked.
He'll be behind Uggla for that.
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Old April 10 2013, 01:14 AM   #85
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Their lineup is so, so bad. I mean, look at this. Look.

1. J. Pierre, LF
2. C. Coghlan, CF
3. G. Stanton, RF
4. P. Polanco, 3B
5. G. Dobbs, 1B
6. D. Solano, 2B
7. R. Brantly, C
8. A. Hechavarria, SS
9. W. LeBlanc, P

That isn't a lineup. That's an abomination unto the Lord.
If Stanton doesn't end up setting the Major League record for walks in a season I'll be shocked.
He'll be behind Uggla for that.
Yeah, there is this misconception out there about Uggla. People think that because he is a K machine that he is some free swinging psychopath. Couldn't be farther from the truth. He goes deep in most counts but consistently misses strikes. Mainly getting blown away by fastballs. I've never seen anyone like him. Its maddening. As I type this he just took a seven pitch walk from LeBlanc.

What is very interesting in this telecast is the decision for the Marlins broadcast team to field e-mails throughout the night. I wish you could hear these guys tapdancing around all the hate mail. They are going out of their way to make it very clear that they are just going to call the game with the players on the field.
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Old April 10 2013, 01:23 AM   #86
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Okay, so let me get this straight...umpire tosses Carlos Carrasco a new ball and THEN ejects him?
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Old April 10 2013, 12:23 PM   #87
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^ Yicketties
There's a Yicketty Yogurt at Turner Field now... along with Holeman & Finch burgers, which are supposed to be the best in Atlanta. I didn't want to wait in line for 2 hours to try one though. Maybe next time.

On a completely unrelated note... if you like American Pest's facebook page and join their e-mail list, you get two free Nats tickets.
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Old April 10 2013, 09:54 PM   #88
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^ Yicketties
There's a Yicketty Yogurt at Turner Field now... along with Holeman & Finch burgers, which are supposed to be the best in Atlanta. I didn't want to wait in line for 2 hours to try one though. Maybe next time.

On a completely unrelated note... if you like American Pest's facebook page and join their e-mail list, you get two free Nats tickets.
Did the Holeman and Finch burgers replace the McCann's Burgers Stand? And Is that Steak Sandwich Stand that was on the Terrace Level still there?
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Old April 10 2013, 11:38 PM   #89
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Ugh...Reds took a beating today. It seems they are either exploding for double digit runs or barely swinging the bat.
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Old April 10 2013, 11:50 PM   #90
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Well, it's not like Jered Weaver was a big part of our rotation or anything....

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