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Old April 8 2013, 06:28 PM   #31
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Re: Thatch kicks the bucket -

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She bequeathed us a country where anyone could make it if they had the talent, the ambition and the work ethic.
Cool, where is it? Like, a new island constructed in the atlantic or something? I'll tell my friends from up north their families should move there.

[edit] for the sake of serious commentary, Thatcher's actions should be placed in context - winter of discontent, Britain's poor economy in the 70s, the "sick man of europe" etc. But while the southeast gained from the sweeping free-marketeer changes, it was at rather a cost to the rest of the country.

And now we're a nation that... relies on bankers, doesn't make a lot and has large areas that are deprived and economically pretty dead.

What could have been done different in the 80s? I dunno. I'm not an economist. But while I find some displays of joy over this rather distateful (she's been irrelevant for over a decade now), I can understand where the anger comes from.
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Old April 8 2013, 06:34 PM   #32
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She bequeathed us a country where anyone could make it if they had the talent, the ambition and the work ethic.
Cool, where is it? Like, a new island constructed in the atlantic or something? I'll tell my friends from up north their families should move there.
I'm from the north too. Grew up in County Durham, near Bishop Auckland. Whereabouts are you neighbour?
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Old April 8 2013, 06:34 PM   #33
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Re: Margaret Thatcher dead at 87

She was like 'Marmite' You either loved her or hated her.
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Old April 8 2013, 06:50 PM   #34
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Re: Thatch kicks the bucket -

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What could have been done different in the 80s? I dunno. I'm not an economist. But while I find some displays of joy over this rather distateful (she's been irrelevant for over a decade now), I can understand where the anger comes from.
This is an excellent point.

While I find celebrating the death of another human being to be tactless at best and downright repugnant at worst, when a person of such civil significance passes, it's important that we don't burry our heads in the sand for the day out of some false pretense of "respect." Doing so would be equally disrespectful to those directly effected by her policies and actions.
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Old April 8 2013, 06:59 PM   #35
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Rest in peace, Iron Lady.

I liked Meryl Streep's sentiments.
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Old April 8 2013, 07:10 PM   #36
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Oh how does that make us look as a corporate body.
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Stay classy, Misc.
Some people seem to be having difficulties differentiating between individuals who post things and "us" or "Misc." like a disembodied group from an online forum is responsible as a whole for the words of a couple people, whether you agree or disagree with what they have to say.

Anyway, the two topics are merged.
I will just note the current respectful title has nothing to do with me (not a complaint just wouldn't want anyone coming in late to think that title was my idea).
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Old April 8 2013, 07:17 PM   #37
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What appears to some mourners in George Square, Glasgow:

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Old April 8 2013, 07:19 PM   #38
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It's very appropriate imo.
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Old April 8 2013, 07:35 PM   #39
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It's very appropriate imo.
The one on the right did more damage.
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Old April 8 2013, 07:47 PM   #40
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It's very appropriate imo.
The one on the right did more damage.
see now thats just wrong. hate her all you want, but comparing her to a serial child molester is imbecilic.
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Old April 8 2013, 07:49 PM   #41
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Why, do you think she suffers by the comparison?
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Old April 8 2013, 08:00 PM   #42
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It's very appropriate imo.
The one on the right did more damage.
see now thats just wrong. hate her all you want, but comparing her to a serial child molester is imbecilic.
Saville ruined a few hundred lives, Thatcher hundreds of thousands, probably more. We're still living in the mess she built.

Saville was certainly a worse person, but there is the issue of scale.
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Old April 8 2013, 08:02 PM   #43
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i think thatcher did a tremendous amount to damage this country, but repeated bad policies is not something equatable to child molestation. if you don't think thats a stupid comparison then that says more about you really.
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Old April 8 2013, 08:15 PM   #44
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She bequeathed us a country where anyone could make it if they had the talent, the ambition and the work ethic.
No.

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But the world's response to her passing rather makes it seem she did.
Old politicians commenting the death of an old politician.

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[edit] for the sake of serious commentary, Thatcher's actions should be placed in context - winter of discontent, Britain's poor economy in the 70s, the "sick man of europe" etc. But while the southeast gained from the sweeping free-marketeer changes, it was at rather a cost to the rest of the country.

And now we're a nation that... relies on bankers, doesn't make a lot and has large areas that are deprived and economically pretty dead.
As far as I understand it, this is basically it in a nutshell.
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Old April 8 2013, 08:20 PM   #45
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I wonder what it'll be like when Berlusconi dies.
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