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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Grade "The Rings of Akhaten"
Geronimo! 15 11.72%
Good 50 39.06%
Average 36 28.13%
Bad 18 14.06%
Terrible 9 7.03%
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Old April 7 2013, 04:20 PM   #121
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Re: 7X07 The Rings of Akhenaten (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!)

Making a story a tiny bit less fun to remove a part that causes trouble with many viewers, might sometimes be a wise move for the health of the show, especially after the quite unrelenting Series 6, even if it sets some poor example, but when you need to replace tons of stuff with banality to make the show work, there might be something wrong with the makers' ambitions and/or abilities, but at least that's not happening, when you look at the whole.
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Old April 7 2013, 04:24 PM   #122
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I much prefer Clara to the Ponds. I was willing them to leave.
No one likes companions once they're gone, or so it seems.
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Old April 7 2013, 04:27 PM   #123
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I much prefer Clara to the Ponds. I was willing them to leave.
I tire of all the domestics. I don't care where they live, if they're dating, who their parents are or any of that nonsense.

Just pick up a companion and go and have some wacky adventures. I watch Doctor Who as an escape from real life so stop reminding me of it.
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Old April 7 2013, 04:28 PM   #124
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I really don't know. To be honest, I don't know how or why people put so much emphasis on background music during a show. Sure, really, really bad music can slap you across the face if it's truly jarring, but the vast majority of the time it's exactly that; background music. I rarely even notice it because I'm usually paying attention to the story and what's going on, not desperately looking for any excuse to hate a show I keep trying to convince myself I like.

I've also noticed that the people who bitch about background music also tend to be the same people who miss all the blatantly obvious things that are going on, asking questions that were addressed by the episode itself. Last week it was about where the Doctor got his "magic motorbike," for example. So, yeah, I feel pretty confident about this mini-rant.
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Old April 7 2013, 05:08 PM   #125
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I much prefer Clara to the Ponds. I was willing them to leave.
I tire of all the domestics. I don't care where they live, if they're dating, who their parents are or any of that nonsense.

Just pick up a companion and go and have some wacky adventures. I watch Doctor Who as an escape from real life so stop reminding me of it.
Which is funny to me, because while I definitely enjoy the whacky adventures, I watch Doctor Who for the people. The main reason I can forgive some of the nonsensical storytelling of Moffat's Silence/River/whatever arc is because I was so very moved by how those events affected the characters on an emotional level.
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Old April 7 2013, 05:14 PM   #126
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Oh and I really liked the "we don't walk away" bit.
I knew there was something I forgot to mention in my post. I loved that part. Maybe The First Doctor would have, but not anymore. This has become core for The doctor.
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Old April 7 2013, 05:15 PM   #127
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Oh and I really liked the "we don't walk away" bit.
I knew there was something I forgot to mention in my post. I loved that part. Maybe The First Doctor would have, but not anymore. This has become core for The doctor.
I really enjoyed that as well, along with his follow up that they only run to protect something they care about.

All that running he does isn't for him. It's to get his friends out of harm's way.
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Old April 7 2013, 05:26 PM   #128
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BTW, is the Doctor supposed to still be laying low?
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Old April 7 2013, 05:34 PM   #129
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The sonic's ability to battle the closing door and the 3 guards was a bit to convenient, but consistent in this case.

Technology in this society was sound based... hence all the singing.

So it makes sense that a sonic screwdriver was the ultimate tool here.
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Old April 7 2013, 06:00 PM   #130
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Overall I thought it was pretty charming and fun (especially the opening and seeing Clara's initial reaction to the world of Akhaten), but I agree all the stuff with the "Old God" on the asteroid didn't work as well, and felt decidedly cheap compared to the scope of the rest of the episode.

I mean, seriously, if this god can't break out of a glass prison how terrifying can he be? Although I will say the three enforcer-type dudes were a really cool and creepy design. It's too bad the writer didn't ditch the god stuff and have THOSE guys chasing the Doctor and Clara around for the whole episode.
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Old April 7 2013, 06:02 PM   #131
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On the nitpick side of things, what were the Doctor and Clara breathing while flying on the hoverbike?
It was never mentioned in the episode, but I remember reading a plot synopsis, before it aired, that said the planet's rings had an atmosphere.
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Old April 7 2013, 06:13 PM   #132
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A spacegoing jetbike would be pretty damn useless without a force bubble of some sort to keep the air in.
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Old April 7 2013, 06:15 PM   #133
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Right now, unfortunately, Clara is just a nice girl. It's not a bad thing, but it's a little boring. I'm excited to see how she develops over the rest of the season. Her future Dalek self and her Victorian self had way more personality than her modern-day self, but it's possible that that's part of her mystery.
Yeah to me the other Clara's seemed much more vibrant and exciting as well, but I have to admit with this episode I'm slowly starting to warm to the new version.

There's something slightly mysterious and inscrutable about the way Coleman is playing her that I find kinda interesting. And I like that she actually regards the Doctor with a bit of healthy suspicion, and isn't immediately enchanted like most other companions.
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Old April 7 2013, 06:22 PM   #134
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Oh dear.

Not much of this made sense, and even the bits that made sense didn't particulary interest.

Smith acted his socks off at the end to try and save it, but I'm not sure how the monster-thats-actually-a-sun was defeated by a leaf.

So the seven planets now have no sun?

I love Doctor Who but this was right down there with the worst.
I'm not quite remembering it all, so here goes:

The sun god creature was a parasitic lifeform that every thousand years wakes up and needs feeding with psychic energy. In particular that generated by negative emotions and memories; the aliens use a girl and implant all of the stories of their culture, which I then presume causes the appropriate mental conditions required to make this tasty sacrifice work, and offer her up to it so that their god will be sent back to sleep.

However thanks to his interference in this process, the Doctor himself instead offered it his thousand or so years of pent up negative psychic energy to feed on, and tried to gorge it to sleep again, if not, to death. The Doctor almost got it all the way there, but it needed just an extra push past the post, which Clara provided by offering up her family's life story, embodied by the leaf that allowed her parents to first meet.

I've probably got some of this horribly wrong.
No, you got it mostly right but left out a part: The reason why the leaf was so important it is because the leaf represents an infinite amount of potential stories and memories that could have happened.
Oh right, that's one damn impressive leaf. Maybe the Doctor should've had that as his companion this time round.
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Old April 7 2013, 06:27 PM   #135
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I much prefer Clara to the Ponds. I was willing them to leave.
No one likes companions once they're gone, or so it seems.
It's only really a new series thing. Coincidentally when they stared introducing all the domestic crap...
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