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Old March 31 2013, 08:31 PM   #121
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Projections

Awesome a Doctor episode. And Barclay's in it, even better. For a brief second on seeing Dwight Schultz's name I thought "Isn't it a bit early for that episode where the Doctor transfers back to the Alpha Quadrant.

Neat little twist on the cuckoo nest trope.
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Old March 31 2013, 08:34 PM   #122
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Initiations

A pretty bland episode. Nice to see the Kazon, but I can't help but feel that after Caretaker that they maybe should have been presented a bit more of a problem for the crew. It's big fight, Seska defects, then Chakotay accidentally stumbles into an initiation right. At least the final twist of how the kid passes was a decent-ish.

But more Chakotay faith babble to surround the episode. Clearly only to get him in the shuttle to get events moving. But the logic is a bit off. He needs solitude, but that goes wrong, then at the end of the episode it's okay for him to do it in his quarters?

First Shuttlecraft destroyed
Since this is now season 2: 74 years to go.
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Old March 31 2013, 08:40 PM   #123
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Soon as he spoke. Really takes you out the episode.
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Old March 31 2013, 09:04 PM   #124
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But that was the largest clue that Voyager is Just a holosuite Game being played at Quarks.

The "crew" of Voyager is entirely a bunch of lower decksmen and nightshifters from DS9 letting off steam after hours, who let Nog play with them once.
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Old March 31 2013, 09:12 PM   #125
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Yeah. Aron should have tried to alter his voice somehow, even a bad accent would have helped
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Old April 1 2013, 09:42 AM   #126
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But that was the largest clue that Voyager is Just a holosuite Game being played at Quarks.

The "crew" of Voyager is entirely a bunch of lower decksmen and nightshifters from DS9 letting off steam after hours, who let Nog play with them once.
, I've never heard that one before, I take it other than that episode and the first meeting of Harry there are other clues too?
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Old April 1 2013, 07:10 PM   #127
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But that was the largest clue that Voyager is Just a holosuite Game being played at Quarks.

The "crew" of Voyager is entirely a bunch of lower decksmen and nightshifters from DS9 letting off steam after hours, who let Nog play with them once.
, I've never heard that one before, I take it other than that episode and the first meeting of Harry there are other clues too?
I wouldn't put it past Quark to design an elaborate holographic ruse to torture Harry. That episode where the planet full of women beat him with dildos makes tons more sense in this context.
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Old April 5 2013, 11:10 PM   #128
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Speaking of Quark, funny how that incident was a bit of a lynch pin. But first Elogium.

Or the episode where the ship gets hit on. Fun enough, though Neelix is really starting to become quite annoying now. However, they've been in space for a year now, and Wildman has only just realised she's pregnant? How does that one work?

Then Non Sequitur.

Without Kim, Quark goes for Paris, who starts a fight and lives are changed. Overall a decent episode. Though I think they could have sold Harry's reasoning to return a bit better. As a TV show of course he wants to get back, but other than the talk with his fiancée it's a bit open, and he just says "I've set my mind to it".
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Old April 5 2013, 11:53 PM   #129
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Becuase shit happens. Miscarriages and the like. Women don't tell any one till well into the pregnancy.

Here's the other dark shit that really happened.

The Doctor did not tell Captain Janeway, and that's the betrayal that would have really gotten Kathryn's goat.

Imagine if your answer phone started fucking with you, deciding which messages you should and should not receive on ethical grounds or because they think you're too much of a wussy to handle the truth...

A 1/4 of her crew are terrorists planning to slit her throat while sleeping but there's a lightbulb keeping medical privilege about their psyche evaluations in conflict with ship security... And probably Tom Paris' STD panel.

The Doctor's program would have been gutted.
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Old April 6 2013, 10:14 AM   #130
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lol that's an interesting spin. I hadn't thought of the Doctor knowing.

And yeah I know about leaving it a while before announcing it, but that the 3 month mark, now the one year. How on Earth could the baby have been conceived on DS9 and her finding out she's pregnant at the start of year 2?

However, I've looked on Memory Alpha now to see if there was an explanation, and there was, or at least a production one. This was a S1 episode, and the network decided to hold it back with no consultation. Takes it a slightly weird problem, to an outrageous one
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Old April 6 2013, 10:27 AM   #131
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Or she could have done a Seska.

Sam had a couple doses of her husbands specimen in a cooler of hyposprays.

Meanwhile, on the other hand, her husband was stationed on DS9 where they picked up Harry in the Pilot.

On the other hand (you don't have three hands?) Naomi was obviously Caretakers kid, and everyone on the ship was psychologically conditioned not to ask questions.
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Old April 6 2013, 10:31 AM   #132
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You can explain it ALL away.. :: waves hand :: with the father being an different species.
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Old April 6 2013, 10:50 AM   #133
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Memory Alpha sez

A Ktarian/Human hybrid's gestation period is about eighteen months.
basing it on "Deadlock" and "Fury", confirming teacake's hocus-pocus theory.
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Old April 6 2013, 11:25 AM   #134
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So how exactly can a baby be in the womb 18 months.... then grow to three feet tall within 2 years? Shouldn't the kid either grow more slowly.... or grow more quickly... but both?
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You just use a little hocus-pocus to explain California's child labor laws. It's like sex-- starts slow and finishes fast.
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