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Old April 4 2013, 11:55 AM   #1
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Enterprise and STID ??

I've been watching Enterprise S4 and I've noticed that some story lines have similar to ideas and rumours from STID. Let me explain

Three episodes explain the human augment story line borderland cold station 12 and the augments. Rumours have said that JH is a human augment working for starfleet we've seen the international trailer and Peter wellers Character says he's one of there top agents possible a human augment ?

Also I've just watched two episodes called affliction and divergence again the story line is about the Klingons making Klingon augments and LT Reed is working for section 31 another rumour that was talked about in the new film and another thing that has come to light the leader of section 31 is called Harrison in that episode. Klingons feature highly in these two episodes and look like to be featured more in STID. IMO the writers have been watching Enterprise episodes to get some ideas for STID
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Old April 4 2013, 12:10 PM   #2
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Re: Enterprise and STID ??

I noticed it too, and agree that Into Darkness borrows some of Enterprise's concepts. And going back to the last movie, the idea of changing the timeline and not undoing it at the end is straight from ENT's Xindi season.
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Old April 4 2013, 12:30 PM   #3
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Re: Enterprise and STID ??

Most, if not all, of these rumors from STID are fan speculation & shots in the dark. Fans who have of course seen Enterprise, believe Harrison is Khan & see Klingons are in too. So intentionally or unintentionally incorporate some of Enterprise in their ideas about what's happening.

Whether Enterprise storylines actually had any influence on the new movie remains to be seen.

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Old April 4 2013, 01:42 PM   #4
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LT Reed is working for section 31 another rumour that was talked about in the new film and another thing that has come to light the leader of section 31 is called Harrison in that episode.
Actually, that's Harris.
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Old April 4 2013, 04:21 PM   #5
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LT Reed is working for section 31 another rumour that was talked about in the new film and another thing that has come to light the leader of section 31 is called Harrison in that episode.
Actually, that's Harris.
That's OK, Harris from Enterprie would be too old anyways by the time of STiD, so, it's more likely to be Harris' Son, then Harris himself
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Old April 4 2013, 09:15 PM   #6
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Re: Enterprise and STID ??

Add to that, I'll be very surprised if Peter Weller's character isn't a complex villain pushing his own little agenda, while being seen by everyone else as a respectable figure. Obviously not connected to Paxton... but the producers can't be unaware of who he played 7 years ago in Star Trek, chosing him because he best fit a certain role.

Weller now joins the likes of Brock Peters, and the actor who played Ron Tracey and Van Gelder on TOS. Multiple characters with no make-over or much attempt to differ their old appearance.
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Old April 6 2013, 09:07 PM   #7
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, and the actor who played Ron Tracey and Van Gelder on TOS. .
Morgan Woodward.
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Old April 6 2013, 09:12 PM   #8
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I am starting to think Harrison was created by Starfleet from extracted DNA from Kahn, who was found years earlier drifting in space by Marcus or April.
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Old April 7 2013, 02:59 AM   #9
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Weller now joins the likes of Brock Peters, and the actor who played Ron Tracey and Van Gelder on TOS. Multiple characters with no make-over or much attempt to differ their old appearance.
Add to that list Barry Russo.
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Old April 7 2013, 03:35 AM   #10
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Weller now joins the likes of Brock Peters, and the actor who played Ron Tracey and Van Gelder on TOS. Multiple characters with no make-over or much attempt to differ their old appearance.
Add to that list Barry Russo.
Or Jon Lormer. It's not really that uncommon, and particularly not in the days when TOS first ran.
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Old April 7 2013, 03:35 AM   #11
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Weller now joins the likes of Brock Peters, and the actor who played Ron Tracey and Van Gelder on TOS. Multiple characters with no make-over or much attempt to differ their old appearance.
Add to that list Barry Russo.
I can't believe I forgot about the Captain of the Lexington.

Or that the other fella had been in Dallas (TV show). The A-Team too, I think.
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Old April 7 2013, 03:38 AM   #12
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Re: Enterprise and STID ??

You've all forgotten the ultimate Trek repeat offender: Vaughn Armstrong.
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Old April 7 2013, 03:40 AM   #13
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You've all forgotten the ultimate Trek repeat offender: Vaughn Armstrong.
How can we possibly forget when you never stop talking about him?
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Re: Enterprise and STID ??

^ Somebody has to.
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Old April 7 2013, 03:46 AM   #15
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You've all forgotten the ultimate Trek repeat offender: Vaughn Armstrong.
Ah, but Forrest was the only role in which he wasn't disguised.

Oh wait, no. I suppose he was human looking in one of those Voyager Borg episodes. He was supposed to be one of the other nine, in Seven's unit. "Survival Instinct" I think it was called.
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