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Old March 28 2013, 05:48 PM   #2236
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Network TV is free, Netflix is fee. Unless by network TV you are including HBO, etc., in which case the same applies.
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Old March 28 2013, 05:52 PM   #2237
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That is one hell of a combo. I'm definitely interested.
Me as well. I wonder how Netflix makes this financially viable whereas network TV cannot seem to 'afford,' these types of shows? Makes no sense.
Netflix is bigger than any network, it even says so in it's own advertising.

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Old March 28 2013, 05:58 PM   #2238
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Network TV is free, Netflix is fee. Unless by network TV you are including HBO, etc., in which case the same applies.
Yea, but it isn't much of a fee, only $9 for both in the mail and streaming and $7 for just streaming.

So splitting the difference at $8 times their subscriber base monthly, gives them $224 million a month in gross revenues but that has to support licensing for all of their other programming which is subsantial.

But, apparnelty they can afford it.

Edited to add. For comparison purposes, CBS raked in $227 million for the Superbowl. And that's 5 hours of programming for one show.

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— 4.3 million outside the U.S., gain of 687,000
— 29.4 million total, gain of 1.85 million
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Old March 29 2013, 08:10 AM   #2239
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Casting news for the Once Upon a Time spinoff called Once: Wonderland

Michael Socha Cast as the Knave of Hearts

Sophie Lowe cast as Alice , Peter Gadiot cast as Cyrus
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Old April 4 2013, 05:18 AM   #2240
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Emma Rigby Cast In ABC’s ‘Once Upon A Time’ Spinoff As Red Queen

The spinoff has been given a new name. I's now called Once Upon A Time in Wonderland instead of Once: Wonderland.
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Old April 4 2013, 07:44 PM   #2241
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Not interested in the OUAT spinoff (and without Sebastian Stan bringing in his fanbase, I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope for it, assuming it ever gets to air) but the Wachowski-Straczynski collaboration interests me a lot!

Netflix will allow them to have quite a bit of creative freedom since they probably can get by with 2-3M viewers, which means they can appeal to oddball niche tastes and create something unique.

As for the broadcast vs Netflix debate, keep in mind that Netflix is in the brand-building phase of its existence and might consider HoC an investment in their future as opposed to making $$$ right now. Netflix needed something that demonstrated they can play with the big boys, and they did that. Wall Street loved them for it. Mission accomplished.

The game is far from over and I expect Amazon to counterpunch with something big (haven't seen indications of that yet), but Netflix has opened up a big lead in the image/branding contest.

So it's not at all Netflix vs broadcast but rather Netflix vs Amazon vs some other major competitor who might be launched with a lot of money behind it, because now everyone must be aware that either Netflix or a competitor is the future of TV, and nobody can afford to be left behind.
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Old April 4 2013, 08:39 PM   #2242
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So it's not at all Netflix vs broadcast but rather Netflix vs Amazon vs some other major competitor who might be launched with a lot of money behind it, because now everyone must be aware that either Netflix or a competitor is the future of TV, and nobody can afford to be left behind.
I'm surprised that Apple hasn't jumped in as well. They've got several hundred billion in the bank right now and Wall Street has not been thrilled lately with their lack of creativity since Jobs passed away.
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Old April 4 2013, 11:40 PM   #2243
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Yeah Apple or Google could spoil the party pretty quickly...

What I don't like about NFLX, is that contrary to the bull thesis, there are no significant barriers to entry. In fact, I do not view the NFLX moat as wide at all. It's really a matter of other companies deciding to spend just a bit more money for content. Moreover, I'm very confident if not outright positive that either AAPL or GOOG or both will create content delivery services for video that will be "good enough" or even superior to what NFLX is currently doing. When that is evident, NFLX will be fighting for not just growth but its very survival. Back to that in a minute.

What I do like about NFLX is that again, they do have a big lead in how they package the service and how much content they provide. While this costs them a lot of money and future payment guarantees, it's also "The Thing" that the competition has thus far not been willing to match. Contrary to what many think, I find the company's moxy to pay the premium dollars for the content has given NFLX its decided edge.

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With regard to AAPL, I'm nearly certain that the new TV will not only come with gesture/touch based controls as I first described well over a year ago (see my report on Apple TV) but more importantly, AAPL TV could likely come with a new video streaming and content delivery powered by my predicted "media content search" capability. And the day this happens, I personally would not want to be long NFLX stock and in fact, I plan on being short the name.

The bottom line, NFLX has a great service for a great price and what looks like a strong lead. But I don't view that lead (or moat) being nearly as large as many of the bulls currently believe. And we might only be a few months away from seeing a true platform competitor for NFLX.
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Old April 5 2013, 01:26 AM   #2244
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WTF SyFy...

The untitled project, from Fox TV Studios and Ross Fineman’s FtvS-based Fineman Entertainment, starts off with a meteorite striking a plane. The only two survivors find themselves sleepwalking and waking up with no memory of their actions. On the run from the government, they must figure out what happened to them and prove their innocence.
So wait...the government thinks they brought down the plane using a meteorite, which somehow also caused them to sleepwalk? Sounds like the kind of TV show my brain creates when I go to sleep after eating too much pizza.
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Old April 5 2013, 04:48 AM   #2245
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Paul Reubens To Voice The White Rabbit In ABC’s Wonderland-Themed ‘Once’ Spinoff
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Old April 5 2013, 11:14 AM   #2246
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I hope he uses his Peewee voice.
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Old April 5 2013, 03:14 PM   #2247
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^Reubens has a lot more to his range than that. He's done effective voice work as a rather malevolent Bat-Mite on Batman: The Brave and the Bold and as the even more malevolent Pavel on TRON: Uprising. I'd rather hear him expand his range even further than demand that he limit himself to a role he was known for decades ago. (Not that I have any interest in the show he'll be doing.)
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Old April 5 2013, 08:38 PM   #2248
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^Reubens has a lot more to his range than that. He's done effective voice work as a rather malevolent Bat-Mite on Batman: The Brave and the Bold and as the even more malevolent Pavel on TRON: Uprising. I'd rather hear him expand his range even further than demand that he limit himself to a role he was known for decades ago. (Not that I have any interest in the show he'll be doing.)
I know he has range, I just think the Peewee voice is funny.
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Old April 6 2013, 06:49 AM   #2249
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WTF SyFy...

The untitled project, from Fox TV Studios and Ross Fineman’s FtvS-based Fineman Entertainment, starts off with a meteorite striking a plane. The only two survivors find themselves sleepwalking and waking up with no memory of their actions. On the run from the government, they must figure out what happened to them and prove their innocence.
So wait...the government thinks they brought down the plane using a meteorite, which somehow also caused them to sleepwalk? Sounds like the kind of TV show my brain creates when I go to sleep after eating too much pizza.
Yeah, not quite sure what to make of that. What exactly do government agents and sleepwalking have to do with a meteorite? Usually I try to give SyFy the benefit of the doubt but what they've revealed here doesn't even make sense.
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Old April 6 2013, 08:50 AM   #2250
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I think the deal there is that a meteorite really brought down the plane but the government thinks it was a terrorist attack. This stuff is written by PR hacks so they may be somewhat off in describing the premise. The original description for Revolution said that all forms of energy stopped working which isn't the case since people are still alive and fires still ignite.
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