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Old March 23 2013, 02:23 PM   #61
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Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr

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A lot of TOS purist fans have to accept it.
I know I've asked you before to refrain from lecturing the "purists" about what they "have to accept". You need to work harder on that.

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I wish they had made it even MORE different to get you guys riled up.
Knock it off. You have a bad habit of baiting others and I would very much like not to see it from you any more.
Eh I said "they", not me.
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Old March 24 2013, 01:19 PM   #62
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Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr

I don't agree that Uhura's expansion in the new movies "over-writes" Bones in the big three. Bones is still Kirk's best friend, and that hasn't changed at all. Any story that involves Kirk heavily will have an important role for Bones. It's just that the NuTrek universe has given Spock a best friend too (Uhura).
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Old March 24 2013, 01:46 PM   #63
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I don't agree that Uhura's expansion in the new movies "over-writes" Bones in the big three. Bones is still Kirk's best friend, and that hasn't changed at all. Any story that involves Kirk heavily will have an important role for Bones. It's just that the NuTrek universe has given Spock a best friend too (Uhura).
See, I agree. In TOS, the Big three was Spock (Logic), Bones (Humanism/Emotion) and Kirk as a mixture of the 2.

NuTrek puts it at Kirk (Emotion) and Spock (Logic). With Bones being the voice of reason of Kirk's emotions while Uhura is the voice of emotion for Spcok's logic.

This justifies her increased role in the new films easily and the fact that she's a linguist on a mission to an alien planet to catch a terrorist doesn't make matters worse either.
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Old April 3 2013, 05:49 AM   #64
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For all you TOS Trek purists. Bones placed in the poster

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Old April 3 2013, 04:19 PM   #65
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Did run a quick search, Zoe's movies have outgrossed Urbans, but if you subtract Avatar her grosses worldwide fall to about $1 billion. $654 million of that is Pirates of the Caribbean. All her other movies made $400 milliom or so. Subtract BOTH LOTR movies and Urban's total is slightly higher than Saldana's without Avatar. Plus I think her roles were smaller in her earlier movies than Urban, who can easily headline his own movie.

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He did and it bombed, although Dredd was pretty decent.
Actually, Dredd 3D is making a ton of money in video sales, which means that there may be a sequel after all.
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Old April 4 2013, 01:44 AM   #66
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Did run a quick search, Zoe's movies have outgrossed Urbans, but if you subtract Avatar her grosses worldwide fall to about $1 billion. $654 million of that is Pirates of the Caribbean. All her other movies made $400 milliom or so. Subtract BOTH LOTR movies and Urban's total is slightly higher than Saldana's without Avatar. Plus I think her roles were smaller in her earlier movies than Urban, who can easily headline his own movie.

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He did and it bombed, although Dredd was pretty decent.
Actually, Dredd 3D is making a ton of money in video sales, which means that there may be a sequel after all.
As hopeful as I am, I wouldn't hold my breath. If anything, a Dredd sequel could end up being direct to home video, and in that case it's possible Urban wouldn't star in it.
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Old April 4 2013, 04:04 PM   #67
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Flat out disagree...Zoe Saldana's acting in Avatar got a lot of critical acclaim and it is her best work to date. I think someone has mentioned why Avatar was so ground breaking. It was the actors that did all the acting, it was not animation or kids or body doubles

Here is the proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOHPCI_9-eQ
That is all nice and good, but I know some people who had no idea, that Uhura and Neytiri were played by the same actress before I told them that. If I wouldn't be a big Star Trek fan, I probably wouldn't know, who Zoe Saldana is, despite watching Avatar and Pirates of the Caribbean. In the later case I only really remember seeing Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley. I don't even know the names of the actors, who played the main villains.

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Why not Chris and Zachary?

Don’t get me wrong, Zachary is huge as well and he will always be an icon to many TV fans and geeks because of his role as Sylar on HEROES. However Zachary doesn’t seem to have the heartthrob status that Chris Pine has (despite the fact that Zachary is more handsome than Chris).
That isn't a fact. Just your opinion. Personally I think Pine looks better than Quinto.

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A lot of TOS purist fans have to accept it. This is year 2013, Star Trek can’t commercially survive with 3 Men on the poster. you need a woman, you need a woman, You need a woman.
Yes, exactly. Uhura is on the poster, because she is a women. Just like it was the case in 2009.


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In the last movie McCoy and Uhura had about the same screen time, but they chose Uhura for the poster, because they didn't want to put three guys on it for marketing reasons. So the poster alone doesn't indicate, that Uhura will get more screen time than McCoy in Into Darkness.

I suspect Kirk and Spock will get again clearly the main focus. After them McCoy, Uhura and John Harrison will probably be on a similar level. Maybe also Carol Marcus. I am not sure, how big her role will be.
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Old April 4 2013, 06:34 PM   #68
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Old April 16 2013, 04:15 AM   #69
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For all you TOS Trek purists. Bones placed in the poster

For those of you who missed it. Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, and Zoe Saldana at the 2013 MTV Movie Awards



So that's it then? Uhura has replaced Bones in the trinity. Partially because of Spock and Uhura's "relationship" but mostly because JJ wants to appeal to the modern female audiences. Pssh at least JJ isn't Bryan Singer and thinks women want to see protagonists get shacked up with a baby of an absent father.
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Old April 16 2013, 04:59 AM   #70
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Is Pine's beard going gray?
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Old April 16 2013, 05:16 AM   #71
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So that's it then? Uhura has replaced Bones in the trinity. Partially because of Spock and Uhura's "relationship" but mostly because JJ wants to appeal to the modern female audiences.
Just spotted this, though:
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@boborci No character poster for McCoy? Sup wit dat? I'm a doctor not a holosuite idol?
He is key in the movie !
Make of it what you will.
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Old April 16 2013, 05:22 AM   #72
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Re: New poster seems proof UHURA has replaced DR. MCCOY in the big thr

I've had touches of grey in my beard since I was 25 (30 now), it happens to most of us at somepoint.

It's a shame that McCoy seems forced out of his proper place (love Karl Urban!). But it will be as much about trying to hit the right demographics and get more bums on seats than the characters place in the film.

Have to say I prefer AllStarEntprise's version of the move poster (very nice work, btw).

Personally, I find Zoe Saldana to be very grating. I'm hoping she warms up in STID.
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Old April 16 2013, 12:32 PM   #73
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Is Pine's beard going gray?
Beards are often the first body hair to turn gray.
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Old April 16 2013, 02:52 PM   #74
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Bigger movies? Saldana was the female lead in Avatar, which is the highest-grossing motion picture in the history of the world,
Hidden behind CGI. They could've stuck any actress there and I doubt it would have made any difference.

It matters a lot, whether that makes sense to you or not. Saldana is a star on the rise, thanks in great part to Avatar, so of course she's going to be central to this movie. Karl Urban is cool, but he's not setting Hollywood afire.

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Old April 16 2013, 03:04 PM   #75
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Since they are trying to appeal to a greater fan base, it makes sense to have a woman in the main group. That attracts the female audience to the movie.

Plus from a real life perspective, Zoe is a bigger star than Urban.
And if you think about it, if you saw the same poster with the Doc then you have 4 men all featured. Doesn't look right if you want to attract different people. So a woman makes it work. Plus like I said, its Zoe, so more people are gonna be like "hey its that chick from Avatar...must be a good movie then"
I don't think females are watching for Uhura. That said, yes we want a woman in the big 3
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