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Old March 31 2013, 02:51 PM   #211
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Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion

This is probably not a big deal, but...I can only assume that it won't be required to read Countdown to Darkness in order to understand what's going on in the actual film itself?
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Old March 31 2013, 02:59 PM   #212
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Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion

It wasn't last time, and it won't be this time.
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Old March 31 2013, 03:11 PM   #213
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Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion

Hmm. Well that's a relief.

It's just that there seems to be a lot of heavy shit going down here, what with Robert April and all that (who is probably not going to be in STID), that it seems a bit complicated...
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Old March 31 2013, 03:39 PM   #214
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Given that at least 99% of the people who see the movie will never read or even hear of the comic, they would never make the movie in such a way that you'd need to read the comic to understand it. Surely anything in the comic that's relevant to the movie will be explained in the movie as well, in the same way that the events of the first Countdown were just a fleshed-out version of the same information that Spock Prime's mind meld conveyed in the movie. In that case, the movie was written first, and then the comic took one piece of that film's backstory and expanded on it as a bonus for that tiny fraction of the audience that's into comics. No doubt the same is true here as well.

(It's the same thing we novelists do all the time. You don't need to read The Buried Age to understand "The Battle" or "The Measure of a Man" -- it just takes background information that's already in those episodes and fleshes it out more fully.)
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Old April 3 2013, 04:39 AM   #215
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Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion

IDW will be publishing "Star Trek After Darkness". The story is an epilogue to the movie and will appear in the regular monthly Star Trek book in issues 21-23.
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Old April 3 2013, 04:58 AM   #216
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Re: Countdown to Darkness - Review and Discussion

IDW, you mean.

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The story is an epilogue to the movie and will appear in the regular monthly Star Trek book in issues 21-23.
The solicitations for issues 21 and 22 are more than a little vague about the storyline. I'm curious what the solicitation for issue 23 will reveal...

Okay, okay, probably not a lot, since that will be made public in about two weeks -- and the movie's still a month-plus out.
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Old April 3 2013, 05:38 AM   #217
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IDW, you mean.
D'oh!
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Old April 3 2013, 02:44 PM   #218
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Boy, Abrams doing Star Wars has confused everybody, hasn't it?
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Old April 3 2013, 09:21 PM   #219
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Given that at least 99% of the people who see the movie will never read or even hear of the comic, they would never make the movie in such a way that you'd need to read the comic to understand it. Surely anything in the comic that's relevant to the movie will be explained in the movie as well, in the same way that the events of the first Countdown were just a fleshed-out version of the same information that Spock Prime's mind meld conveyed in the movie. In that case, the movie was written first, and then the comic took one piece of that film's backstory and expanded on it as a bonus for that tiny fraction of the audience that's into comics. No doubt the same is true here as well.

(It's the same thing we novelists do all the time. You don't need to read The Buried Age to understand "The Battle" or "The Measure of a Man" -- it just takes background information that's already in those episodes and fleshes it out more fully.)
But assuming that Robert April isn't in the film, then how can a comic series that so heavily features him - and which is obviously a very intricate plot and is also a prequel to STID - just be dismissed out of hand in said film?
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Old April 3 2013, 09:52 PM   #220
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But assuming that Robert April isn't in the film, then how can a comic series that so heavily features him - and which is obviously a very intricate plot and is also a prequel to STID - just be dismissed out of hand in said film?
Who said anything about being "dismissed?" Remember the analogy I made with Countdown. That was a story that was built on information that originally came from the film: that a supernova endangered Romulus, that Spock was sent in the Jellyfish to stop it with red matter, that he didn't arrive in time and Romulus was destroyed, and that Nero, captain of the Narada, blamed him for the destruction and attacked him, and that they both fell into the black hole created by the red matter. That story was told in the film, and it was also told in Countdown, fleshed out with more backstory and detail.

So it's not an either-or question, where any given piece of information is only allowed to be in one of the two stories. That's not the way it works. This comic, just like Countdown, was written to foreshadow events from a movie script that was written before it. So any information in the comic that's relevant to the movie is going to be in both the comic and the movie, just like the Romulus/red matter stuff in the first movie. So people seeing the movie will get all the information they need without needing the comic, and the comic just fleshes out some of that background information more fully.
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Old April 3 2013, 09:58 PM   #221
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^ Hmm. Well, all right then. I haven't heard anything about April's involvement in STID, but there's still so much about the film that we don't know. Including possible cameo appearances.
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Old April 3 2013, 10:36 PM   #222
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Well, we'll have the answer in just over six weeks.
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Old April 3 2013, 10:37 PM   #223
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There hasn't been even a snifter of a possibility of a Robert April cameo in the film, has there?
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IDW, you mean.
Man, I freakin' wish Dark Horse had the Star Trek license.
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IDW, you mean.
Man, I freakin' wish Dark Horse had the Star Trek license.
Having seen their Mass Effect comics, I'd fine with Trek staying with IDW.

It also means there's a chance of a Judge Dredd/Star Trek crossover
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