RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,609
Posts: 5,405,146
Members: 24,869
Currently online: 591
Newest member: Engelbert

TrekToday headlines

Star Trek: Gold Key Archives Vol. 2 Comic
By: T'Bonz on Oct 1

Cumberbatch In War Of Roses Miniseries
By: T'Bonz on Oct 1

Trek 3 Filming Location Revealed
By: T'Bonz on Oct 1

October-November 2014 Trek Conventions And Appearances
By: T'Bonz on Sep 30

Cho Selfie TV Alert
By: T'Bonz on Sep 30

TPTB To Shatner: Shhh!
By: T'Bonz on Sep 30

Mystery Mini Vinyl Figure Display Box
By: T'Bonz on Sep 29

The Red Shirt Diaries Episode Five
By: T'Bonz on Sep 29

Shatner In Trek 3? Well Maybe
By: T'Bonz on Sep 28

Retro Review: Shadows and Symbols
By: Michelle on Sep 27


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek TV Series > Enterprise

Enterprise The final frontier has a new beginning in this forum!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old March 29 2013, 11:16 PM   #271
feek61
Captain
 
feek61's Avatar
 
Location: The Sunshine State
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Strange that it doesn't look as good as Blu-Ray TOS even though both were filmed in 35mm film. The Blu-Ray "Enterprise" still looks really good
__________________
feek61 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old March 30 2013, 01:04 AM   #272
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Best Buy Exclusive behind the scenes documentary



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DplUcTXFC10
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30 2013, 01:43 AM   #273
ChristopherPike
Rear Admiral
 
ChristopherPike's Avatar
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

^ Thanks to whoever put that online. I'm guessing there's no way I'd be able to see it here in the UK otherwise. I have to say I'm not really a fan of special features being withheld, to later become exclusive content you have to chase up. I'd much prefer to have everything produced to just be on the discs. But it's probably the future and not sweated by those who already watch more catch-up i-player, Netflix and other online video hosters, than actual TV or physical media.

The Best Buy, only available from a particular retailer thing is a new development for me... although I was certainly aware of it. With Region 2 DVD box-sets, Paramount used to somehow include everything including those handful of extra-extra featurettes, on the last disc as standard.
__________________
STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE Season 5 on Netflix Facebook page

Last edited by ChristopherPike; March 30 2013 at 01:56 AM.
ChristopherPike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30 2013, 09:00 PM   #274
Reanok
Commodore
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Thanks for this special features interview from Shuttlepod one.Nice to see Connor &Dominic discussing filming this show. I rememeber when the original Enterprise dvds came out that Best Buy would have special dvd disks with special interviews and behind the scenes stuff and that people would buy the dvd sets at Best buy and later put them up for sale on e-bay for an outrageous price because they were rare and highly sought after.I remember how unhappy folks on trek bbs used to post here about it.
Reanok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30 2013, 10:01 PM   #275
feek61
Captain
 
feek61's Avatar
 
Location: The Sunshine State
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Just finished watching the interview with Berman and Braga; very interesting.
__________________
feek61 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old March 30 2013, 10:15 PM   #276
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Reanok wrote: View Post
Thanks for this special features interview from Shuttlepod one.Nice to see Connor &Dominic discussing filming this show. I rememeber when the original Enterprise dvds came out that Best Buy would have special dvd disks with special interviews and behind the scenes stuff and that people would buy the dvd sets at Best buy and later put them up for sale on e-bay for an outrageous price because they were rare and highly sought after.I remember how unhappy folks on trek bbs used to post here about it.
Thank god for Youtube! You can find anything on there these days!
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30 2013, 11:33 PM   #277
Andyperkins
Ensign
 
Location: Bristol
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

feek61 wrote: View Post
Strange that it doesn't look as good as Blu-Ray TOS even though both were filmed in 35mm film. The Blu-Ray "Enterprise" still looks really good
It's not that surprising, Enteprise is using decade old masters created for HDTV, techniques have come along way in the last ten years just look at the Gladiator Blu-ray, the first release used an old HD master created for the 2001 DVD release but it was awful so they did a brand new transfer and it looks fantastic.

Enterprise could look as good as TNG if they rescanned the negatives and re-rendered the CG but that isn't going to happen, like you said it looks really good so why spend a lot of money to make it better when most will already be happy with how it looks now.
Andyperkins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30 2013, 11:41 PM   #278
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Andyperkins wrote: View Post
Enterprise could look as good as TNG if they rescanned the negatives and re-rendered the CG but that isn't going to happen, like you said it looks really good so why spend a lot of money to make it better when most will already be happy with how it looks now.
CBS doesn't want to spent lots of money on making the Blu-Rays for something they know will have low sales.

Is this foreshadowing for the DS9 and VOY releases?
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 31 2013, 12:55 AM   #279
feek61
Captain
 
feek61's Avatar
 
Location: The Sunshine State
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Andyperkins wrote: View Post
feek61 wrote: View Post
Strange that it doesn't look as good as Blu-Ray TOS even though both were filmed in 35mm film. The Blu-Ray "Enterprise" still looks really good
It's not that surprising, Enteprise is using decade old masters created for HDTV, techniques have come along way in the last ten years just look at the Gladiator Blu-ray, the first release used an old HD master created for the 2001 DVD release but it was awful so they did a brand new transfer and it looks fantastic.

Enterprise could look as good as TNG if they rescanned the negatives and re-rendered the CG but that isn't going to happen, like you said it looks really good so why spend a lot of money to make it better when most will already be happy with how it looks now.
Yes, plus they can re-release it in a couple of years in better quality so we will have to buy it again, lol.
__________________
feek61 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old March 31 2013, 03:09 AM   #280
Harvey
Admiral
 
Harvey's Avatar
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Dream wrote: View Post
Andyperkins wrote: View Post
Enterprise could look as good as TNG if they rescanned the negatives and re-rendered the CG but that isn't going to happen, like you said it looks really good so why spend a lot of money to make it better when most will already be happy with how it looks now.
CBS doesn't want to spent lots of money on making the Blu-Rays for something they know will have low sales.

Is this foreshadowing for the DS9 and VOY releases?
As I have repeated before, it is hard to read CBS' relative lack of investment in Enterprise as indicative of what the studio would do for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine or Star Trek: Voyager.

1. Enterprise was mastered in HD. The other spin-offs were mastered in SD. There is no way for CBS to put out the same half-assed product.

2. Enterprise was the least popular live action Trek series. As such, it is hard to guess what CBS will do with the other series based on this one.
__________________
"This begs explanation." - de Forest Research on Star Trek

My blog: Star Trek Fact Check.
Harvey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 31 2013, 04:01 AM   #281
BillJ
Admiral
 
BillJ's Avatar
 
Location: Covington, Ky.
View BillJ's Twitter Profile
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Harvey wrote: View Post
Dream wrote: View Post
Andyperkins wrote: View Post
Enterprise could look as good as TNG if they rescanned the negatives and re-rendered the CG but that isn't going to happen, like you said it looks really good so why spend a lot of money to make it better when most will already be happy with how it looks now.
CBS doesn't want to spent lots of money on making the Blu-Rays for something they know will have low sales.

Is this foreshadowing for the DS9 and VOY releases?
As I have repeated before, it is hard to read CBS' relative lack of investment in Enterprise as indicative of what the studio would do for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine or Star Trek: Voyager.

1. Enterprise was mastered in HD. The other spin-offs were mastered in SD. There is no way for CBS to put out the same half-assed product.

2. Enterprise was the least popular live action Trek series. As such, it is hard to guess what CBS will do with the other series based on this one.
I tend to agree with your reasoning for the most part. But what makes me wonder about the amount of money that CBS will be willing to invest in DS9/Voyager is the fact that both seemed to struggle in strip syndication.

Neither series seemed to have much life after their first runs here in the States.
__________________
"I tell you what you all need, you need to take a thirteenth step, down off your high horse." - Hank Hill, King of the Hill
BillJ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old March 31 2013, 04:10 AM   #282
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

Harvey wrote: View Post
As I have repeated before, it is hard to read CBS' relative lack of investment in Enterprise as indicative of what the studio would do for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine or Star Trek: Voyager.

1. Enterprise was mastered in HD. The other spin-offs were mastered in SD. There is no way for CBS to put out the same half-assed product.

2. Enterprise was the least popular live action Trek series. As such, it is hard to guess what CBS will do with the other series based on this one.
Actually they've screwed up twice on the TNG BDs already. First the audio errors in S1 and the shoddy effects job that was done in S2, some fans are still refusing to get S2 for that reason. Maybe they'll finally get things right with season 3, three times the charm?
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 31 2013, 04:21 AM   #283
Harvey
Admiral
 
Harvey's Avatar
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

I fail to see how the audio mastering errors on season one (which the studio fixed at their expense) and the picture quality of season two (which the studio didn't fix, but did address, by replacing HTV on subsequent seasons) have anything to do with the subject at hand.
__________________
"This begs explanation." - de Forest Research on Star Trek

My blog: Star Trek Fact Check.
Harvey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 31 2013, 04:25 AM   #284
Harvey
Admiral
 
Harvey's Avatar
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

BillJ wrote: View Post
I tend to agree with your reasoning for the most part. But what makes me wonder about the amount of money that CBS will be willing to invest in DS9/Voyager is the fact that both seemed to struggle in strip syndication.

Neither series seemed to have much life after their first runs here in the States.
I think they've been more widely syndicated than Enterprise, but you may be right. HD remasters are hardly a sure thing for either series, because syndication revenues are the main reason to make the investment. In comparison, home video is ancillary revenue, the market for which is rapidly shrinking.
__________________
"This begs explanation." - de Forest Research on Star Trek

My blog: Star Trek Fact Check.
Harvey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 31 2013, 06:10 PM   #285
tomswift2002
Fleet Captain
 
Re: ENTERPRISE on Blu-Ray OFFICIAL Discussion Thread

I don't get what BillJ means about Voyager struggling in Syndication. Up here in Canada Space airs TOS-R, TNG and Voyager in a 3-hour time block Monday to Friday from 3 p.m. To 6p.m. (With Voyager occupying the 5-6 block). Seems like Voyager is doing alright. Space did air DS9 uptil about a year and a half ago. I think for Enterprise it's about 3 or 4 years since it last aired.
tomswift2002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
remastered

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:39 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.