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Old March 30 2013, 05:45 PM   #31
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You seriously don't find anything absurd about multi-millionaire, major studio movie stars preaching left-wing economics? Without capitalism, Brad Pitt wouldn't be famous or rich.
1. No, I don't find it absurd.
2. We don't know what would have happened to Brad Pitt without capitalism.
3. Brad Pitt is not opposed to capitalism.
4. "Educate yourself first, then form your opinion" is a good rule.
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Old March 30 2013, 06:04 PM   #32
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You'd look less foolish if you bothered to even Google "Brad Pitt Socialism". He also claims to have been to a socialist country (None even exist in the world today!) where everything is fine.

They aren't all dumb people, but these Hollywood celebrities do seem to wear their political views as one would wear a fashion accessary.

See also the utterly vulgar display at the Oscars which saw Michelle Obama present the award for Best Film. What the hell has the president's love interest got to do with cinema? The agenda is there and it is painfully obvious.
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Old March 30 2013, 06:54 PM   #33
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He also claims to have been to a socialist country (None even exist in the world today!) where everything is fine.
None exist in the world today? What does that even mean? The French president, François Hollande, is a member of the French Socialist Party, as is his Prime Minister.

You'd look less foolish if you just thought before you posted. That was, I think, point number 4.
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Old March 30 2013, 07:49 PM   #34
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You'd look less foolish if you bothered to even Google "Brad Pitt Socialism".
There's only one person looking foolish in this thread, and it's not Mirrorball.
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Old March 30 2013, 08:07 PM   #35
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You'd look less foolish if you bothered to even Google "Brad Pitt Socialism".
Why in the world would anyone ever Google that? I don't give a shit what Brad Pitt (or any other actor/actress, sports personality) thinks or does in his personal time. Where their contributions to my entertainment end, my not giving a fuck begins.
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Old March 30 2013, 08:23 PM   #36
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So, Sean Penn has a son?!
I was thinking the same thing. Is the son cute?
Oookay, maybe we didn't think quite the same thing.
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Old March 30 2013, 08:31 PM   #37
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Without capitalism, Brad Pitt wouldn't be famous or rich. Or y'know, be able to star in that TV advert that's always on. There's no way he'd give it up.
Why wouldn'T there be famous people in a socialist society? There were famous actors, writers, directors and musicians in the socialist countries that existed. My mother was a famous actress in one of them and was still being recognised for years afterwards.
Rich is relative. Obviously, he wouldn't be that rich but it wasn't uncommon for those famous socialist artists to get some material privileges, to have a big house and other stuff.
It might surprise you but there were occasionally adverts in socialism. Obviously, they weren't paid as well as the one Brad Pitt's starring in, to put it mildly.

Then again, he might be talking about the American notion of socialism which encompasses such countries as France and Sweden.
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Old March 30 2013, 08:32 PM   #38
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I don't let this stuff really bother me unless I'm debating with liberals on political topics.
There's a special place here where you can do just that. All opinions are welcome and there is much lively debate.

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Why wouldn'T there be famous people in a socialist society? There were famous actors, writers, directors and musicians in the socialist countries that existed. My mother was a famous actress in one of them and was still being recognised for years afterwards.
Rich is relative. Obviously, he wouldn't be that rich but it wasn't uncommon for those famous socialist artists to get some material privileges, to have a big house and other stuff.
It might surprise you but there were occasionally adverts in socialism. Obviously, they weren't paid as well as the one Brad Pitt's starring in, to put it mildly.

Then again, he might be talking about the American notion of socialism which encompasses such countries as France and Sweden.
Once again, a person lashes out against socialism without having any idea what socialism even is.

Someone seriously needs to write a Socialism for Dummies book.
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Old March 30 2013, 08:52 PM   #40
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See also the utterly vulgar display at the Oscars which saw Michelle Obama present the award for Best Film. What the hell has the president's love interest got to do with cinema?
Cinema? Not much.

But an internationally popular public figure advocating for an American Industry? Why, I'd imagine that all but the most blind partisan hacks could see the value in that!
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Old March 30 2013, 09:02 PM   #41
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Since when is a man's wife called his "love interest"? Does that make Obama the leading man and Biden the goofy side kick? Its the real world, not a film!!!!
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Why wouldn'T there be famous people in a socialist society? There were famous actors, writers, directors and musicians in the socialist countries that existed. My mother was a famous actress in one of them and was still being recognised for years afterwards.
Rich is relative. Obviously, he wouldn't be that rich but it wasn't uncommon for those famous socialist artists to get some material privileges, to have a big house and other stuff.
It might surprise you but there were occasionally adverts in socialism. Obviously, they weren't paid as well as the one Brad Pitt's starring in, to put it mildly.

Then again, he might be talking about the American notion of socialism which encompasses such countries as France and Sweden.
Once again, a person lashes out against socialism without having any idea what socialism even is.

Someone seriously needs to write a Socialism for Dummies book.
They'd just burn it.
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Old March 30 2013, 09:06 PM   #43
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You'd look less foolish if you bothered to even Google "Brad Pitt Socialism". He also claims to have been to a socialist country (None even exist in the world today!) where everything is fine.
He says, of people who use inflammatory rhetoric decrying this or that policy as 'socialism': "I guarantee you none of those people have ever been to a socialist country. I've been to a socialist country - we're fine. We're great."

He's clearly saying that the U.S. is fine, not the socialist countries, and that since the U.S. is fine, the talk of socialism can be dismissed as histrionic. So he's actually being highly critical of socialism, albeit implicitly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=964rEJ8KsoI
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Old March 30 2013, 09:09 PM   #44
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That's cleared up, then.
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Old March 30 2013, 09:09 PM   #45
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He also claims to have been to a socialist country (None even exist in the world today!) where everything is fine.
None exist in the world today? What does that even mean? The French president, François Hollande, is a member of the French Socialist Party, as is his Prime Minister.

You'd look less foolish if you just thought before you posted. That was, I think, point number 4.
I'm being called foolish by a guy that thinks France is a socialist country. Gotta love the internet.

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Once again, a person lashes out against socialism without having any idea what socialism even is.
Please find a quote where I have lashed out against socialism in this thread.

Someone seriously needs to write a Socialism for Dummies book.
Someone seriously needs to write a Basic Reading Comprehension for Dummies book. Hmm, it'd be better as an audio book come to think of it.
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