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Old March 30 2013, 05:17 PM   #1
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Into Darkness ties to Star Trek XIII?

I remember reading that Abrams and co. thought about ending Star Trek with a shot of the S.S. Botany Bay floating in space. It would have been a similar sequel set up to the Joker card at the end of Batman Begins or the map to the fountain of youth at the end of Pirates of the Carribean: At World's End, or the post-credits scenes in all the Marvel superhero movies.

Should Into Darkness include a similar set up or tease for Star Trek XIII? I think this trilogy should be a real trilogy, not three sets of totally unrelated events that just happen to involve the Enterprise crew (looking at you, TNG movies). I want continuing themes and lasting repercussions.
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Old March 30 2013, 05:24 PM   #2
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I don't care. I want to see an entertaining movie next month.
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Old March 30 2013, 05:31 PM   #3
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My Name Is Legion wrote: View Post
I don't care. I want to see an entertaining movie next month.
This.

An entertaining movie is spades above any fanwank, connecting the dots or lead-in to another sequel. Marvel does it well, I supposed, but I want to watch a movie that will tell an entire story that doesn't really depend on me knowing what happened before or what will happen after.
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Old March 30 2013, 05:43 PM   #4
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My Name Is Legion wrote: View Post
I don't care. I want to see an entertaining movie next month.
On one hand, I want to share a similar sentiment, on the other, I'd be honest, I'd enjoy some cool hint at the end to keep me warm till the next film.

That being said, I think Into Darkness is exciting enough for me to keep thinking that far ahead. There is enough for potential for great things now. Who cares about XIII at this point?
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Old March 30 2013, 05:45 PM   #5
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Re: Into Darkness ties to Star Trek XIII?

...soooo...

You'd object if they did include some little tid-bit after the credits???

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Old March 30 2013, 05:51 PM   #6
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You'd object if they did include some little tid-bit after the credits???
Absolutely. I would totally hate it if they included anything cool that I did not get to see because it was showed after the film stopped rolling.
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Old March 30 2013, 06:04 PM   #7
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Re: Into Darkness ties to Star Trek XIII?

I'm not a big fan of the post-credits scenes thing.
And I don't really care if they have something at the end that could be used to lead to the 3rd movie, as long as the story of STID is wrapped up. No cliffhangers, please.
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Old March 30 2013, 06:38 PM   #8
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I'm not a big fan of the post-credits scenes thing.
And I don't really care if they have something at the end that could be used to lead to the 3rd movie, as long as the story of STID is wrapped up. No cliffhangers, please.
NO NO NO! Cliffhangers. PLEASE!!! Means we get another Trek by the Bad Robot group. A fantastic TV and movie production company ( I am not listing this stuff again. Lost Fringe. Nuff said). ST3 with Orci directing and JJ producing. Yes PLEASE!
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Old March 30 2013, 06:42 PM   #9
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I wouldn't want to back what could possibly be a new creative group into a corner.
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Old March 30 2013, 06:52 PM   #10
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I'm not a big fan of the post-credits scenes thing.
And I don't really care if they have something at the end that could be used to lead to the 3rd movie, as long as the story of STID is wrapped up. No cliffhangers, please.
NO NO NO! Cliffhangers. PLEASE!!! Means we get another Trek by the Bad Robot group.

If it makes money, we will get more.
Having or not having cliffhangers has nothing to do with it.
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Old March 30 2013, 06:54 PM   #11
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King Daniel wrote: View Post
I remember reading that Abrams and co. thought about ending Star Trek with a shot of the S.S. Botany Bay floating in space. It would have been a similar sequel set up to the Joker card at the end of Batman Begins or the map to the fountain of youth at the end of Pirates of the Carribean: At World's End, or the post-credits scenes in all the Marvel superhero movies.

Should Into Darkness include a similar set up or tease for Star Trek XIII? I think this trilogy should be a real trilogy, not three sets of totally unrelated events that just happen to involve the Enterprise crew (looking at you, TNG movies). I want continuing themes and lasting repercussions.
I doubt it. Beside Kirk doesn't meet Khan until 8 years after events that take place in the up coming movie. Also, in Space Seed, they don't know who Khan was. On the other hand. If Kirk meet Khan some years before the events in Space Seed? Then it would explain how Khan got the delta badge.
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Old March 30 2013, 06:55 PM   #12
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Bill - I think it is confirmed Bad Robot is doing 1 more at least. So we're good there. And I really think Cumberbatch (who is now kinda a big deal) may survive this to play a part in 13. It makes sense. I am a DUDE and I squee over that guy. I think he is a "specialist" that is a tool in the greater Starfleet conspiracy. I follow Orci at the other site. He is OBSESSED with conspiracy shit.
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Old March 30 2013, 06:59 PM   #13
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I'm not a big fan of the post-credits scenes thing.
And I don't really care if they have something at the end that could be used to lead to the 3rd movie, as long as the story of STID is wrapped up. No cliffhangers, please.
NO NO NO! Cliffhangers. PLEASE!!! Means we get another Trek by the Bad Robot group.

If it makes money, we will get more.
Having or not having cliffhangers has nothing to do with it.
You are correct. What I am saying is we should have no worries that if we are left hanging a bit, the same team will bring us a resolution. Unless Lindelof is charge. Then it could very well be a WTF ending.

I say that as a guy who quite liked the ending to Lost. But the "mysteries" created were so obviously a case of writing themselves into a corner. They had ZERO end game in mind from Dharma on. Let's hope Trek has more foresight than Prometheus.
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Old March 30 2013, 07:02 PM   #14
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Re: Into Darkness ties to Star Trek XIII?

I would be in favor of anything that prevented any third film in this series to be a longer wait time than the wait time between 2009 and this one.
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Old March 30 2013, 07:05 PM   #15
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Re: Into Darkness ties to Star Trek XIII?

Anyway, so far Abrams & co have been all about doing standalone stories that anyone can jump in, with no knowledge of what came before.
There will still be ties between movies and themes but nothing that says you absolutely must have watched the previous stuff.

I doubt that will change now.
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