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Old March 28 2013, 05:15 PM   #31
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Re: I'm getting a motorcycle.

i really hate that american term 'crotch-rocket'. from now on i propose we call harley looking bikes 'arse-zeppelins'
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Old March 28 2013, 05:17 PM   #32
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I'm not a fan of the term either, I prefer Sports Bike.
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Old March 28 2013, 06:11 PM   #33
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Yeah motorcycles can be fun. I prefer a Harley over a crotch rocket but crotch rockets are better in most ways(just not looks and style). One thing I was told when I said I wanted to ride one was that its not if you are going to crash (likely some pebble in the road) but when. As long as you wear an helmet I don't see that being to serious. I say have fun and enjoy. You only have 1 life to live.
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Old March 29 2013, 09:35 AM   #34
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Yeah, I'd think if you're starting out and intend to ride on the road, you should get the standard 250cc Honda Rebel (or several other brands' similar bikes). Enough engine to at least give you a chance out there. Unless you're huge and would otherwise bog that down. Or if you're tiny, short, or otherwise light of stature, maybe a 250 is all you'll ever need (or can touch the ground while on).
I sat on a Rebel at the dealer and it was way too small for me. I'm 6'3"/190lbs and a lot of folks agree that a 250 would be way too small even starting out.
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Old March 29 2013, 11:57 AM   #35
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Which is why I said mostly tiny, short, or otherwise light dudes, and women. That whole bit was generic anyway, and not intended directly for you.

My first one was a 750cc, but it was 2 years older than I am. Just get something cheap, that runs, and learn to ride, then sell it back. Without doing much of any research, found a couple Virago 535 bikes in the $1500 range. SOme Yamaha VStar 650s in the $2500 range, a few Vlucan 500s, etc. Plenty to choose from, shouldn't be hard to find something that fits you and you can afford without buying new.
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Old April 1 2013, 01:30 PM   #36
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Warriors Watch: I'm part of an organization called The Warriors' Watch Riders. We're a group of military veterans and civilian patriots who seek to honor our returning service members. We do so by meeting them at the airport or at a restaurant while they're having dinner with their totally-in-on-it family and surprising them with a welcome home motorcycle escort. Nearly all of the members ride, but there are a few of us who don't who drive our cages in the processions. I'm usually piloting my dad's lifted Jeep Wrangler and running interference for any impatient cagers who may disrupt the procession, and I help make a spectacle of the whole thing with the siren mounted on the Jeep. That part is fun and all...but not quite like being up with the guys at the front on the bikes. I'm with the Warriors' Watch Riders and I'd like to actually be...a rider!
This is actually a very cool thing and I applaud you for it, Flux. I don't give two shits about you getting a motorcycle or not, but our returning and outgoing soldiers deserve all the respect in the world and they just don't get enough of it. Honoring the troops when they come home or get sent off to be deployed is a great thing and shows a lot of character on your part and I do respect you for that.
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Old April 3 2013, 07:52 AM   #37
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Warriors Watch: I'm part of an organization called The Warriors' Watch Riders. We're a group of military veterans and civilian patriots who seek to honor our returning service members. We do so by meeting them at the airport or at a restaurant while they're having dinner with their totally-in-on-it family and surprising them with a welcome home motorcycle escort. Nearly all of the members ride, but there are a few of us who don't who drive our cages in the processions. I'm usually piloting my dad's lifted Jeep Wrangler and running interference for any impatient cagers who may disrupt the procession, and I help make a spectacle of the whole thing with the siren mounted on the Jeep. That part is fun and all...but not quite like being up with the guys at the front on the bikes. I'm with the Warriors' Watch Riders and I'd like to actually be...a rider!
This is actually a very cool thing and I applaud you for it, Flux. I don't give two shits about you getting a motorcycle or not, but our returning and outgoing soldiers deserve all the respect in the world and they just don't get enough of it. Honoring the troops when they come home or get sent off to be deployed is a great thing and shows a lot of character on your part and I do respect you for that.
I appreciate that. The way I see it, those guy do a lot more for us than any of us could do for them in return short of signing up ourselves. I often thought about joining up myself but have been told I'd never make it past medical (had a collapsed lung once, it can happen again at any time) so participating with the Warriors' Watch is what I do. I use my graphic design skills and put together a little personalized memento for each service member we welcome. Being able to ride with the rest of the guys instead of being back int he pack in a cage will just add to the fun factor. There's nothing quite like cruising down a road through red lights while local PD runs block for you in the intersection, especially when you see the look on the package's (the service member we're honoring) face as they soak it all in.

In case anyone is interested in what we do, here's a video I put together of one of out missions to give an idea of how they usually go. The Marine in this video and I have actually become friends as a result.
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Old April 5 2013, 08:19 AM   #38
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Re: I'm getting a motorcycle.

I had my first portion of the MSF class last night in the form of the classroom session. I learned a lot and will be studying my rider handbook religiously. I already have a lot of it down though, apparently, since I aced my knowledge exam at the end with a perfect score.
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Old April 5 2013, 11:59 AM   #39
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Re: I'm getting a motorcycle.

Other than having to pay more attention to corners and assuming the cars are actively attempting to kill you (assume they don't ever see you and you'll be much safer), the knowledge section isn't really anything much different from a car test.

It's the actual riding bit that's tricky

How does CA work? Does this result in a permit, and you get a road test later? Or do they incorporate all of that into the class itself? Personally, I like that Rhode Island does the latter. They provide the bikes, you take the class, ends in the test from MSF basic rider class. You pass that, you get a permit, and can just trade it in after 30 days for a license, no more testing. In other states, you just take written test at DMV, they give you a permit, and you can be in the road! Dangerous situation that way, better that the learning is in controlled environment, and on smaller (250cc) bikes.
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Old April 5 2013, 05:53 PM   #40
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^ Funny, I have the perfect example to illustrate that today. I bought my friend her first bike at the weekend and delivered it to her. Today, on her second time out, she hit a gravel patch and fell off. Now that's just a combination of bad luck and lack of experience that could happen to any starter biker, but both she and the bike are fairly unscathed because she was on a small, relatively light & low powered bike.

Now, if that had been a 750, not only would the accident have been more likely to happen in the first place, but I'd bet we'd be talking injury, and some expensive repairs too.
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Old April 5 2013, 06:10 PM   #41
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That's why you get a cheap, 'well worn' bike to start out on. Not nearly as fashionable as a shiny new one, or giant chromed beast, but safer, easier to control, and better to ride until you're comfortable being on a bike and able to handle the challenges that presents.

Exactly what old, cheap bikes are FOR. already depreciated, got a few scratches and plenty of miles. Ride it for a year, learn, make your mistakes on it, and THEN get a 'real' bike. Not doing it that way is BEGGING to be hurt, or at least lose a ton of cash on a (formerly) shiny late-model bike.
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Old April 5 2013, 06:12 PM   #42
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Yah, this thing cost £400. Just as well really
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Old April 5 2013, 06:26 PM   #43
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In CA, you take the MSF course and they give you a completion certificate. If you're over 21, you take that to the DMV, they waive your skills test and you only take a written. Pass that and you've got yourself an M1 license. Alternatively, you can go in to DMV, take the written and get a permit. Then go to the MSF course, come back to DMV with our cert and get your license.
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Old April 5 2013, 07:32 PM   #44
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A decent enough way to do it. Nice that the MSF basic rider (or whatever they call it now, think it changed) course substitutes for the fairly worthless DMV road test. especially since to TAKE that test, you'd already have to be on public roads and own a bike to get there.

Don't love the 'just get a permit and ride' portion, but at least looks like MSF is still in the loop before the license.

Kinda dumb to have to take a written test at the DMV, though. You already did that at the MSF course to pass that...
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Old April 5 2013, 10:48 PM   #45
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Kinda dumb to have to take a written test at the DMV, though. You already did that at the MSF course to pass that...
things are totally different here in the uk, but some things are the same where ever you go.

and im guessing the "written" part at the DMV is to "justify" their jobs/wages being paid.
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