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Old March 28 2013, 10:26 AM   #2026
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Re: So What Are you Reading?: Generations

Finished reading The Stuff of Dreams. My 2c about it are in the appropriate review thread.

Recently bought and enjoyed the Early Voyages omnibus (great characters and stories, but I suppose with TrekLit Pike era novels) and Star Trek Ongoing Vol. 4. I wonder whether the plot of "Mirrored" happened to echo In A Mirror, Darkly, or was a deliberate homage?

As part of my studies (exam preparation), I started reading Simon James's non-fiction Exploring the World of the Celts because it is illustrated.

Soon I'll have holidays and can finally read (or finish to read):
VOY: The Final Fury
DS9: Warpath; The Left Hand of Destiny Bk. 2
NF: Dark Allies
TNG: Dark Mirror

Concerning the Keru-issue in Taking Wing: As a young LGBT person myself I was delighted how it was integrated into the story without becoming cringeworthy (e.g. "Hello, I'm Lieutenant Commander Ranul Keru, and I'm gay.").

I enjoy romantic (and other!) sub-plots a lot because I want to see the characters coping with their normal lives as well and not just during world-shattering crises. Take Picard's family life, for example - we explore it in and out of the action/suspense of the month.
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Old March 28 2013, 05:33 PM   #2027
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Just posted my review of The Stuff of Dreams. Enjoyed it!

Right now I'm pausing my reading of DS9's Avatar, Book One in order to read Greg Cox's new release, The Weight of Worlds.
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Old March 28 2013, 07:13 PM   #2028
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I'm just posting to say I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I never meant to. After the first respone to my post, I should have just bowed out of the conversation. I truly believe in equal rights for everyone, so if I stupidly offended anyone, I apologise. I overreacted to both a part of a story that I honestly dislike mostly for the fact that it took time away from the main story and the reaction to what I posted. I have a bad habit of responding without thinking enough sometimes, and after spending a lot of time thinking about it I can see where a lot of the response to my post came from, and even agree it was unfair of me to totally write off Keru in the book. I'll defind my opinion, even if it is a bit weird in retrospect, as not being because of prejudice so much as being an ass and probably reading more into the book then I should. I was speaking honestly earlier about my enjoyment of other characters like Willow or Batwoman and their relationships, and my support of things like gay rights. I guess something about this particular book just set my off. I don't think its a predisposition against anyone, maybe I'm just so used to "diversity for the sake of diversity" stuff that I sometimes see it when its not there. Honestly, I thought about this whole thing a lot yesterday, it really troubled me for most of the day after my last post. On reflection, I see where everyone else was coming from and looking back the stuff with Keru was mostly just having to do with him being a security officer and widower. So, again, I apologise if anyone was offended. If this apology makes me seem like I'm backpeddling or something, I can't convince you otherwise. I just wanted to say that, on reflection, I was wrong, atleast about that part having an agenda. That from this post what you will, but I honestly just wanted to make up for being an idiot and then just compounding it as I tend to do when I get worked up.
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Old March 28 2013, 10:36 PM   #2029
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I seem to have crashed out of my planned reading in the middle of the first volume of A Storm Of Swords cos it disappeared when Lesley tidied up in preparation for the guy coming to to install our HD...
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Old March 29 2013, 05:06 AM   #2030
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Ok now I'm on A Time for War, A Time for Peace. So far I'm not liking the political game. But then I've often been bored with political stories and I'm still early in the book.
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Old March 29 2013, 05:50 AM   #2031
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Starting on my Bantam collection now with Spock Must Die (interestingly the back cover blurb reminds me of the creation of Lt. Thomas Riker from The Next Generation episode
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Old March 29 2013, 06:14 AM   #2032
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I'm just posting to say I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I never meant to. After the first respone to my post, I should have just bowed out of the conversation. I truly believe in equal rights for everyone, so if I stupidly offended anyone, I apologise. I overreacted to both a part of a story that I honestly dislike mostly for the fact that it took time away from the main story and the reaction to what I posted. I have a bad habit of responding without thinking enough sometimes, and after spending a lot of time thinking about it I can see where a lot of the response to my post came from, and even agree it was unfair of me to totally write off Keru in the book. I'll defind my opinion, even if it is a bit weird in retrospect, as not being because of prejudice so much as being an ass and probably reading more into the book then I should. I was speaking honestly earlier about my enjoyment of other characters like Willow or Batwoman and their relationships, and my support of things like gay rights. I guess something about this particular book just set my off. I don't think its a predisposition against anyone, maybe I'm just so used to "diversity for the sake of diversity" stuff that I sometimes see it when its not there. Honestly, I thought about this whole thing a lot yesterday, it really troubled me for most of the day after my last post. On reflection, I see where everyone else was coming from and looking back the stuff with Keru was mostly just having to do with him being a security officer and widower. So, again, I apologise if anyone was offended. If this apology makes me seem like I'm backpeddling or something, I can't convince you otherwise. I just wanted to say that, on reflection, I was wrong, atleast about that part having an agenda. That from this post what you will, but I honestly just wanted to make up for being an idiot and then just compounding it as I tend to do when I get worked up.
Fair enough. Just speaking for myself, I accept your apology, and I'm glad you see where we were coming from on this.

For what it's worth, I know from experience that sometimes it's easy to fall into an offensive frame of mind without realizing it. Yesterday on Facebook, I shared a quote from Bob Marley that said something to the effect of, "If she's amazing, she won't be easy. If she's easy, she won't be amazing." I was being sentimental and didn't give much thought to the second sentence -- and I totally got called out for it by a friend. "Way to demean sexually liberated women."

I thought about it, and I realized -- she was absolutely right. In the midst of being sentimental about the idea that an amazing person's heart is difficult to win, I went along with the idea that "too much" sexual activity is automatically a sign that something's wrong with a woman in some way. And I didn't even give the idea more than a second's thought. I fell into a misogynistic mental trap and I demeaned women's sexual agency. When I realized this, I apologized to her and deleted the image.

Which, by and by, is just my way of saying: It's easy to fall into the traps that privilege (be it male privilege or heterosexual privilege) lay for us as part of the system. Remember, these are mental systems of control, and they're trying to control those who benefit as much as those who are oppressed. And we need to be called out on it when we fall into those mental traps, into those mindframes. It's the only way we can grow and evolve. You needed it yesterday -- and I did, too -- but it doesn't have to define us today.
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Old March 29 2013, 03:03 PM   #2033
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60 pages into TOS #51 Enemy Unseen. I've never seen anyone's take on this one. It strikes me as your garden variety TOS novel from the 90's. Not great, not bad but a steady simple page turner that satisfies your Trek fix.
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Old March 29 2013, 09:59 PM   #2034
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I finished New Frontier: Cold Wars then read its conclusion, Death After Life.

I'm now reading Mass Effect: Deception. I've read that it's not very good and there are a lot of mistakes (continuity, lore, etc). I also read that it was going to be rewritten, but I haven't seen anything new about that in about a year, so I figured I'll just go ahead and read it to make up my own mind. I'm a few chapters in and so far the errors are things that I didn't even notice until I looked them up online. It's been a while since read any Mass Effect novels/comics or played the games, so I've forgotten a lot of things. Even though I love the ME universe, I guess I'm just not as aware of the continuity and minutiae as I am with Star Trek.
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Old March 30 2013, 12:03 AM   #2035
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I'm reading a couple of different books right now. One is Moby-Dick, which I haven't read since the first time in late high school/early college. I remember liking it then...and I'm remembering why now.

The other is called Escape Velocity: A Charles Portis Miscellany. In fact I also have a couple of his novels on hold from the library. Charles Portis is someone I hear touted as "the greatest novelist you've never heard of". One of his books, True Grit, has achieved a kind of subsidiary fame from having two movies made out of it. I'm looking forward to checking out his oeuvre.
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Old March 30 2013, 12:03 AM   #2036
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I really enjoy the Mass Effect universe. I read the first three books and they were great, but I haven't gotten the chance to read the fourth one, although I've heard bad things about it.

Also, while I was planning to read as much as the series as I could, I just found out the public library lost Orion's Hounds, so I'm going to take that as fate telling me to leave the Titan star trek books alone and find something else to read. After finishing The Red King, I'll be reading star Trek: The weight of Worlds (which the library has, and should be avaliable soon) and then maybe do a reread of the Dune series, starting at Dune and reading all of the Frank Herbert stuff, then the conclusion of the main series written by his son, then some of the other books like the Dune prequels (about Paul's family before Dune).
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Old March 30 2013, 01:24 PM   #2037
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Currently reading star trek Typhon Pact zero sum game just finished star trek titan Synthesis trying to catch up so when the fall series comes out i'm up to date with the 24th century stuff
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Old March 30 2013, 05:36 PM   #2038
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I read Greater than the sum, which I enjoyed. I immediatly entered in the story. I liked to meet the new members of the crew of the Enterprise and to learn more about them along the novel. I like T'Ryssa Chen who is different from the usual Starfleet members and it's refreshing. I also liked a lot Jasminder Choudhury. This novel contains a lot of reference to other novels and other TV episodes and I appreciate that, it make me feel like if I was part of the Star Trek universe. Actually with the new crew and all the reference to other novels or episodes that summarize the actual situation, this novel is a perfect start to TNG relaunch and a perfect introduction to the Destiny trilogie, which I still have to read. My only regret with this novel is the lack of action. With a story about borgs, I was expecting a little bit more of action. But I still enjoyed it
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Old March 30 2013, 05:40 PM   #2039
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Old March 31 2013, 12:01 AM   #2040
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I'm starting to think about setting Dracula aside. It's one I've been wanting to read for a long time, but now that I've started it it's kind of boring me. I feel a little guilty because I love modern Vampire stories, and I was really looking forward to reading one of the books that set up a lot of the mythology they use.
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