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Old March 28 2013, 06:13 AM   #331
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Can someone explain why Origins cost 40 million more to make than "The Wolverine"? Why did the first one look so cheap?
Usually, big science fiction films that are irreparably saddled with development and production problems than those that don't. Though there is only a few years difference, Star Trek 5 cost a lot more to make than Aliens, and we know which one looks better.
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Old March 28 2013, 06:56 AM   #332
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Can someone explain why Origins cost 40 million more to make than "The Wolverine"? Why did the first one look so cheap?
I think part of it is this has a much better director. I have to look up who did the first one, but Mangold knows how to make good looking films regardless of budget.

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Old March 28 2013, 07:00 AM   #333
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Gavin Hood directed "X-Men Origins: Wolverine".
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Old March 28 2013, 10:32 AM   #334
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Hood's Tsotsi is meant to be a good film and Rendition also got fairly positive reviews. He's not a bad director by any means. Much of the fault for Wolverine can be laid at the door of Fox, with their constant interference.
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Old March 28 2013, 10:34 AM   #335
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Hood's Tsotsi is meant to be a good film and Rendition also got fairly positive reviews. He's not a bad director by any means. Much of the fault for Wolverine can be laid at the door of Fox, with their constant interference.
Do we know if there is less interference for this movie compared to Origins?
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Old March 28 2013, 10:36 AM   #336
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^Can't say for sure but I haven't heard any rumours online to the same extent as were prevalent during the shooting of the previous movie. I think also that there's a new and more benevolent regime in place at Fox.
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Old March 28 2013, 12:57 PM   #337
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As seen at the end of X3, the cure "wears off" on Magneto after a few weeks
But we don't know that it totally wore off for him. It could be that he only retained a vestige of his former power and things stayed that way.
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Old March 28 2013, 01:58 PM   #338
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Empire break down the trailer with 36 'must-pause' moments.

One thing they point out is that when he gets shot he doesn't heal, but immediately after when he breaks out his claws no blood pours out.
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Old March 28 2013, 02:03 PM   #339
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As seen at the end of X3, the cure "wears off" on Magneto after a few weeks
But we don't know that it totally wore off for him. It could be that he only retained a vestige of his former power and things stayed that way.
Or it could be that it wears off completely, as you say we just don't know. All I mean is that the possibility is there, so it's not unreasonable for The Wolverine to discount the so-called cure. Whether they even address it at all remains to be seen.
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Old March 28 2013, 02:21 PM   #340
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Has anybody posted the longer international trailer that has popped up?



Yes they have

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Old March 28 2013, 03:32 PM   #341
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Now I am partly being sarcastic with the "ignore" stuff and have been for quite some time, but I have read and been told that "X-Men Origins" will not be referenced or at the very least referenced very little in "The Wolverine". Obviously this could have changed during production and with re-writes, but for the most part I don't think this is the case.
Well, I think they'll reference how he became Wolverine (i.e., the Weapon X project), but I can't think of anything else from the movie that needs to be referenced even if they had no strong feelings one way or the other.
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Old March 28 2013, 05:59 PM   #342
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There's something like 40 years between the events of the two Wolverine movies. Can't see any real reason to reference the first since The Wolverine is not a direct sequel.
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Old March 28 2013, 07:24 PM   #343
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X-Men Origins: Wolverine was just saddled with problems. It went over-budget, over-schedule, and director Gavin Hood (who had no prior experience directing a big-budget movie) butted heads with 20th Century Fox exec Tom Rothman a lot during filming. For example, Hood would give direction, and then allegedly Rothman would circumvent Hood, creating problems on set.

According to rumors, Richard Donner (director of Superman: The Movie and husband of producer Lauren Shuler-Donner, who produces all the X-Men films) was called in to direct a pivotal action sequence because Hood apparently lacked the proper experience to do that sequence justice. I'm not sure if that's true or not, but that's what I heard.

EDIT: From Wikipedia, which is admittedly not the most reliable of sources, but I've heard this story in other places before.

Hood and Fox were in dispute on the film's direction. One of the disputes involved the depiction of Wolverine as an Army veteran with post-traumatic stress disorder, with the executives arguing that audiences would not be interested in such heavy themes. The studio had two replacements lined up before Richard Donner, husband of producer Lauren Shuler Donner, flew to Australia to ease on-set tensions. Hood remarked, "Out of healthy and sometimes very rigorous debate, things get better. [...] I hope the film's better because of the debates. If nobody were talking about us, we'd be in trouble!" Hood added he and Thomas Rothman were both "forceful" personalities in creative meetings but they had never had a "stand-up" argument.
Gavin Hood is a very good director as has been stated before. Hood's films Tsotsi and Rendition received good reviews. However, not every director can seamlessly transition to mainstream films. I think in order to do that you need a supportive studio backing you and 20th Century Fox is known for meddling in affairs of other filmmakers. Bryan Singer had a very difficult time making the first two X-Men movies which is why he left X-Men: The Last Stand to direct Superman Returns. However, I think after the poor reception to both X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Fox and Rothman realized their mistakes and have since changed their ways. Or so I hope.
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Old March 28 2013, 07:46 PM   #344
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Yeah Fox interfered a great deal during that production which hampered Hood and only added to the film's problems. Weapon X was already established in "X2: X-Men United" and "X-Men" in the first place along with flashbacks, so they could very well ignore the sequence shown in Origins if they wanted to and just be vague again.
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Old March 28 2013, 09:47 PM   #345
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As seen at the end of X3, the cure "wears off" on Magneto after a few weeks
But we don't know that it totally wore off for him. It could be that he only retained a vestige of his former power and things stayed that way.
Or it could be that it wears off completely, as you say we just don't know. All I mean is that the possibility is there, so it's not unreasonable for The Wolverine to discount the so-called cure. Whether they even address it at all remains to be seen.
And if we end up with a suddenly repowered Rogue in DOFP...

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Well, I think they'll reference how he became Wolverine (i.e., the Weapon X project), but I can't think of anything else from the movie that needs to be referenced even if they had no strong feelings one way or the other.
Yeah, it won't be too shocking if The Wolverine fails to mention Victor and Kayla.
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