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Old March 27 2013, 09:55 PM   #316
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So this notion of a cure, post TLS, being a revelation seems to raise questions.
Well, for all we know, a mutant cure would have no effect on Wolverine. His healing power might prevent it from doing anything at all.
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Old March 27 2013, 10:30 PM   #317
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"X-Men Origins: Wolverine" is pretty much being ignored by both filmmakers...
Except that he has the bone claws, and nothing that we know so far conflicts with Origins. I don't expect the movie to explain where Victor is during the Nagasaki sequence, though, if that counts.
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Old March 27 2013, 11:22 PM   #318
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I never said it would conflict with Origins, only that they're ignoring it. Of course this could have changed at some point during production, but the original plan was to ignore Origins.
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Old March 27 2013, 11:26 PM   #319
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I never said it would conflict with Origins, only that they're ignoring it. Of course this could have changed at some point during production, but the original plan was to ignore Origins.
So why ignore Origins but not TLS?
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Old March 27 2013, 11:35 PM   #320
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Why would he be surprised that his powers could be taken away? That was a key plot point of X-Men The Last Stand--the mutant "cure."
And we don't know what has happened since then. As seen at the end of X3, the cure "wears off" on Magneto after a few weeks, so for all we know it was found to be a non-issue for everyone afterwards.
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Old March 28 2013, 12:34 AM   #321
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I never said it would conflict with Origins, only that they're ignoring it. Of course this could have changed at some point during production, but the original plan was to ignore Origins.
So why ignore Origins but not TLS?
Probably because they see greater story potential using TLS.
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Old March 28 2013, 01:17 AM   #322
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I never said it would conflict with Origins, only that they're ignoring it. Of course this could have changed at some point during production, but the original plan was to ignore Origins.
I don't think Mangold ever said that. He did say that it wasn't an origin story. That is true. It's telling a different chapter of the character's life. It's meant to stand alone. But that's not the same as "ignoring" something. Logan appearing in WWII with bone claws shows that they're not ignoring it. As I understand it the Japan arc in the comics wasn't about the origins of Wolverine, so why would the movie version have been expected to cover that territory? You've been making this claim since Mangold was hired, when you somehow took claims that the film wouldn't be an amnesia-focused story as evidence that it was going to "ignore" Origins. But that similarly made no sense. The film not being an amnesia-focused story would just mean it's not trying to rehash that dynamic again. It's not, for example, suggesting Logan never had amnesia, which would be outright contradiction of X1 and X2; amnesia was part of Logan's story long before there ever was an Origins.
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Old March 28 2013, 02:30 AM   #323
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So this notion of a cure, post TLS, being a revelation seems to raise questions.
Well, for all we know, a mutant cure would have no effect on Wolverine. His healing power might prevent it from doing anything at all.
Good point.


We don't know that Origins is being ignored.
We just know, as of now, that it's not being referenced.
Big difference.
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Old March 28 2013, 02:51 AM   #324
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Has anybody posted the longer international trailer that has popped up?

This looks awesome to me. I can't wait.
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Old March 28 2013, 04:23 AM   #325
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Holy Shit! WOW!

I have been excited about this for awhile. But this looks better than I was expecting. Its looks like a really good movie. Period. Not just a good X-men or Wolverine movie. But all around good movie
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Old March 28 2013, 04:23 AM   #326
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The notion of "ignoring" "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" I believe first originated with Aronofsky when he was still attached who stated that the film would be self contained and not reference anything from that movie.

Now I am partly being sarcastic with the "ignore" stuff and have been for quite some time, but I have read and been told that "X-Men Origins" will not be referenced or at the very least referenced very little in "The Wolverine". Obviously this could have changed during production and with re-writes, but for the most part I don't think this is the case.


That all aside, I'm really excited for this film, in fact it's increased.
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Old March 28 2013, 05:21 AM   #327
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Very cool.
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Old March 28 2013, 05:28 AM   #328
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The world would be a much better place if everyone ignored "X-Men Origins: Wolverine".

But at least now it looks like they have learned from the mistakes of Origins and we are now getting the Wolverine movie that we should have gotten in the first place.
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Old March 28 2013, 05:32 AM   #329
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The cinematography looks incredibly gorgeous.
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Old March 28 2013, 06:00 AM   #330
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Can someone explain why Origins cost 40 million more to make than "The Wolverine"? Why did the first one look so cheap?
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