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Old March 22 2013, 10:32 PM   #46
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Re: New Star Trek Into Darkness Teaser!

Hell, the resident Star Trek 2009 troll had to move the goalposts back when it became a box office hit and tried to claim that Star Trek should be a money-losing venture that only appeals to a niche audience.
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Old March 22 2013, 11:39 PM   #47
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Srsly?

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Old March 23 2013, 12:28 AM   #48
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Lol Trek not about underwear???

That's a good one, watched a Trek documentary made by Paramount with Nimoy and Herb Solow stating Roddenberry boasted how he slept with every actress in each episode except one. I mean it's embarrassing to see some of the costumes in TOS.

Pretty poor argument....
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Old March 23 2013, 01:46 PM   #49
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Trek is not changing, this is not trek.
Yes, it very much is Star Trek - and it's the only Star Trek, going forward, for quite a while. Future versions of Star Trek will incorporate this version and continue to evolve from it.

This is guaranteed, because this version is so enormously successful for the people who own Star Trek and who get to say what is, and what isn't, Star Trek.

Agreed. I expect to see a series of some kind, maybe two (animated and live) out of the JJverse within a year or two of this movie's likely success.
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Old March 23 2013, 01:50 PM   #50
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Hell, the resident Star Trek 2009 troll had to move the goalposts back when it became a box office hit and tried to claim that Star Trek should be a money-losing venture that only appeals to a niche audience.
We ARE headed into a time when niche programming on TV and in movies possibly, is commonplace...streaming, grass roots funding can make it so, however, there should still be a place for $200 million dollar budget blockbusters that appeal to everyone. The studios will look positively on this.

Trek trolls have been wrong about a lot of things since 2005. I happily rub it in their faces.
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Old March 23 2013, 11:00 PM   #51
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Srsly?

I tried to find his exact quote but can't find the key words on a Google search. I did, however, find lots of crap people had to deal with in 2009, like the troll who claimed that Sulu knowing how to handle himself in hand-to-hand combat is a racist stereotype that would have Roddenberry rolling in his grave.
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Old March 23 2013, 11:03 PM   #52
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That kind of carp just makes me laugh.

Neither Cho nor Takei seemed to ever have any problem with it and obviously had a lot of fun.

Yet some white knighter knows better.
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Old March 24 2013, 12:37 AM   #53
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Re: New Star Trek Into Darkness Teaser!

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Srsly?

I tried to find his exact quote but can't find the key words on a Google search. I did, however, find lots of crap people had to deal with in 2009, like the troll who claimed that Sulu knowing how to handle himself in hand-to-hand combat is a racist stereotype that would have Roddenberry rolling in his grave.
There's nothing in it about roto-Roddenberry, but perhaps you were remembering this little gem:
More practical to use a katana? So the marine of today should forego their closet quarter fire training for fencing lessons? Just because Sulu is known for fencing, does not mean all Asians are kungfu fighting. Just because John Cho looks Japanese, does not mean he carries a katana. For Abrams to even employ such stereotypical clichés, its borderline racism.
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Old March 24 2013, 01:47 AM   #54
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Cuz the standard Marine rifle of choice has a bayonet for decoration...
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Old March 24 2013, 02:30 AM   #55
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Well, buh bye Alcatraz.
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Old March 24 2013, 05:32 AM   #56
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Re: New Star Trek Into Darkness Teaser!

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Hell, the resident Star Trek 2009 troll had to move the goalposts back when it became a box office hit and tried to claim that Star Trek should be a money-losing venture that only appeals to a niche audience.
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Just a heads-up for clarification...

I am NOT any of those Trolls.

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Old March 24 2013, 12:45 PM   #57
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Well, buh bye Alcatraz.
I think this is JJ Abrams' way of coming to terms with Alcatraz's cancellation. Drop a fucking starship on it!
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Old March 24 2013, 01:10 PM   #58
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I think it's hard to take any defense of JJ Trek seriously when your avatar is the enterprise "splishing" into the water like this is something to celebrate.
Wait. wait. You don't buy that the fact that the Enterprise can survive underwater?

This is a ship (in the Prime timeline) that traveled through time by flying around the sun. really. really. fast. You can buy into that, but you can suspend disbelief to think that the ship may be able to survive underwater?

Furthermore, in the last film this ship only begun to crack due to the pressure of a black hole (which is probably a bazillion times worse than underwater). The Defiant flew so close to the sun that that it could properly aim a sun flare at a space station (which would still be more pressure than underwater) and survive, while Voyager escaped a black hole by cracking its event horizon and flying out (this has little to do with my point, I just always love pointing out the absurdity of that).

But, it is completely and utterly impossible that the most advanced ship in the federation can survive under water.

Really?

Dude, get's some perspective.
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Old March 27 2013, 02:55 PM   #59
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I am not against ST looking like a big budget hollywood flic, but "seek out new civilizations" has been replaced by "seek out new special effects" "seek out new underwear" etc.
Of course, Star Trek II, III, IV, VI, VI, Generations, First Contact, Insurrection and Nemesis were literally bursting out of the seams with seeking out new civilisations...

as for the underwear... yes, we Trek nerds deplore any acknowledgement of sex unless it's undertaken every 7 years!

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Would someone please explain to me what "real" Star Trek looks like?
- Has to be very serious. Humour must only come from an incredibly forced or cringeworthy exchange between characters who really love each other very much.
- Mustn't reference or hint at sex.
- Lots of standing around thinking. When in doubt, have a conference.
- Crew must help/ridicule some poor alien tribe who believe in a deity.



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Agreed. I expect to see a series of some kind, maybe two (animated and live) out of the JJverse within a year or two of this movie's likely success.
Can't wait!
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Old March 29 2013, 06:53 PM   #60
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Ugh. Explosions, boobs, quips, and absolutely no compelling story to be seen. Michael Bay would be proud. Another mindless, souless action movie for the transformers fans. I didn't expect anything else from the biggest hack director/writers around, but I would have thought that they would have atleast tried to hide the fact that they're blatantly trying to copy Bay's style so much. Seriously, even if I had seen nothing but the woman in a bra and panties, i'd have had efinitive proof that this movie is total crap only made for the people who keep making Michael bay money. It sucks that they have to drag a decent actor (Cumberbatch) down with the ship. Also, I'm calling it now. enterprise hits the earth a terminal velocity, gets repaired with in a week and is back in space, because the JJ Prise isn't a wimp like that puny Ent-D. It has the power of hacks behind it, a little thing like hitting a planet isn't going to stop the lensflares.

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Would someone please explain to me what "real" Star Trek looks like?
- Has to be very serious. Humour must only come from an incredibly forced or cringeworthy exchange between characters who really love each other very much.
- Mustn't reference or hint at sex.
- Lots of standing around thinking. When in doubt, have a conference.
- Crew must help/ridicule some poor alien tribe who believe in a deity.
Your sarcastic post is right. Thats all that old lame trek was, it had absolutle nothing good about it. It survived for over 40 years because nerds suck. All the compelling stories and good characters was holding it back. Real trek needs

-Absolutely no story outside of a reason for special effects or lensflares. We wouldn't want to teel a good story. Thats for nerds.
-No dialog that isn't a sexual reference, quip, or brainless exposition
-Horrible Actors who make the characters into unlikeable jackasses with no redeeming qualities
-SEX SEX SEX! Because if it doesn't have boobs every few minutes, its not "mature". Adults need boobs to be entertained, and lots of sex. Nothing compelling has ever been made when you keep the shirts on the women. A movie without boobs isn't a real movie
-Explosions, because the only thing better than boobs are explosions.
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