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Old March 12 2013, 04:04 PM   #16
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Re: Animated nuTrek concept art

Don't like the animation for Green Lantern: The Animated Series, so I wouldn't like it for a new Trek series either. Something closer to the earlier Star Wars: Clone Wars show would be preferred.
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Old March 12 2013, 05:10 PM   #17
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Don't like the animation for Green Lantern: The Animated Series, so I wouldn't like it for a new Trek series either. Something closer to the earlier Star Wars: Clone Wars show would be preferred.
Then you better hope whoever does it has a metric s@#t ton of money.
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Old March 12 2013, 07:45 PM   #18
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That concept art is amazing! I'd give this a chance.
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Old March 12 2013, 10:08 PM   #19
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Re: Animated nuTrek concept art

Those orbital cities (?) remind me of something off of a Boston album cover.
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Old March 23 2013, 05:10 PM   #20
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I'll second the YES PLEASE! Animation is the way to go for a new series IMO.
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Old March 23 2013, 05:41 PM   #21
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Re: Animated nuTrek concept art

It looks wonderful - if they get the characters right it could be fantastic.

One thing I would be concerned about is animations scope to do things they couldn't in a live action show. As tempting as it is, it could take the show way too far away from what Trek is about - I don't want the cast forever running away from giant monsters and ludicrous aliens, it should be a little more adult (not meaning 'edgy') than that.

As soon as there's a smart kid, cute animal or funny robot, I'm out...
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Old April 12 2013, 02:52 PM   #22
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Re: Animated nuTrek concept art

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I hate to be critical, but what we see here is the easy part. The hard part is getting the characters right. And we don't see any of that, here.

Those vague tiny featureless renders of Kirk, Spock, and some red shirt dwarfed by the Big Alien Things don't count.

Furthermore, the unrealistic proportions of the characters that we can discern don't impress me at all; quite the opposite, actually. I can only hope that the character drawings here are thumbnail placeholders in lieu of actual character drawings to be inserted once it's figured out exactly how to draw them (e.g., regard a faceless Spock).

Unfortunately, in Green Lantern, the character style is to render people with exaggerated proportions, and these sketches seem to suggest that the treatment might go in that direction, too. That sort of character style works in GL, but I have grave doubts about it working in Star Trek.

Consequently, I'm unimpressed, and actually concerned.
Agreed. I too also love Green Lantern, but I don't necessarily want to see its style on a new Star Trek cartoon (nor do I want to see the style of Star Wars: The Clone Wars or Dragons: Riders of Berk just slavishly copied for any new animated series based on Star Trek, either.)

As I've said (and shown) before, this style is the kind of style that should be done for a new series:



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Old April 12 2013, 05:12 PM   #23
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I'd rather see something more stylized and cartoony than that.
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Old April 12 2013, 10:01 PM   #24
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^Why?
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Old April 12 2013, 10:13 PM   #25
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Attempts at realistic characters in animation only highlights their unreality and strains suspension of disbelief. Stylized characters are easier to accept on their own terms without the constant reminders that you're not watching real people. If that makes sense.
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Old April 12 2013, 10:35 PM   #26
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By Peter Markowski, who's worked for Warner Bros on their Green Lantern animated series. I've just gone from "meh" on a potential new animated series to "YES PLEASE!"

Fingers crossed Into Darkness is a big hit and we get something like this soon after.
We reach as I share your enthusiasm. It does look good. Better than "Clone Wars."
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Old April 12 2013, 11:19 PM   #27
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^Why?
because that approach ignores every artistic, expressive advantage of character animation while not being persuasively realistic in any way. It's an admirable effort for a production with limited resources using OTS software, but there's nothing dynamic or visually imaginative enough there to hold the attention of a large audience expecting a professional production.

More simply, one frame of The Incredibles is more beautiful and exciting than the entirety of The Polar Express.
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Old April 13 2013, 01:23 AM   #28
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Re: Animated nuTrek concept art

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Attempts at realistic characters in animation only highlights their unreality and strains suspension of disbelief. Stylized characters are easier to accept on their own terms without the constant reminders that you're not watching real people. If that makes sense.
That makes perfect sense to me, and I totally agree.
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Old April 13 2013, 04:39 PM   #29
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^Why?
because that approach ignores every artistic, expressive advantage of character animation while not being persuasively realistic in any way. It's an admirable effort for a production with limited resources using OTS software, but there's nothing dynamic or visually imaginative enough there to hold the attention of a large audience expecting a professional production.

More simply, one frame of The Incredibles is more beautiful and exciting than the entirety of The Polar Express.
True story. I too would rather see something stylistic that has energy and isn't dedicated to being "photorealistic." While I loved comic artist Gorden Purchell and Jerome K. Moore tenure on DC's STAR TREK comics , but really loved the more stylistic impression of the universe from Tom Sutton and Pablo Marcos. And I really loved Paul Pope's STAR TREK short comic in WIRED.
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Old April 13 2013, 06:17 PM   #30
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Re: Animated nuTrek concept art

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I hate to be critical, but what we see here is the easy part. The hard part is getting the characters right. And we don't see any of that, here.

Those vague tiny featureless renders of Kirk, Spock, and some red shirt dwarfed by the Big Alien Things don't count.

Furthermore, the unrealistic proportions of the characters that we can discern don't impress me at all; quite the opposite, actually. I can only hope that the character drawings here are thumbnail placeholders in lieu of actual character drawings to be inserted once it's figured out exactly how to draw them (e.g., regard a faceless Spock).

Unfortunately, in Green Lantern, the character style is to render people with exaggerated proportions, and these sketches seem to suggest that the treatment might go in that direction, too. That sort of character style works in GL, but I have grave doubts about it working in Star Trek.

Consequently, I'm unimpressed, and actually concerned.
Agreed. I too also love Green Lantern, but I don't necessarily want to see its style on a new Star Trek cartoon (nor do I want to see the style of Star Wars: The Clone Wars or Dragons: Riders of Berk just slavishly copied for any new animated series based on Star Trek, either.)

As I've said (and shown) before, this style is the kind of style that should be done for a new series:


Frankly, SZ, I don't get your fascination with Aurora. It isn't just the soulless characters and animation. The whole concept is boring. It's just April O'Neill and a T'Pol clone delivering stuff...and that "teaser" just flat out promises a stupid episode 2.
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