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Old March 22 2013, 04:25 AM   #1921
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Re: Does It Get Better???

Yes we aim to drivel here..

As to Nemesis.. I loved the opening with the Romulans turning to stone and dust. Everything else was dismal.

About once a year I rewatch NEM trying to suck something out of it that previous rewatches missed. I want to love ALL Trek. But really it seems more ridiculous and unpleasant every time I revisit. And that's not even touching on personal matters, like the enslavement of Troi to that animal. And no, I don't mean Shinzon.
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Old March 22 2013, 04:27 AM   #1922
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Mulgrew got the part because Ryan said "No thankyou."

Alan Dale ran the Star Empire for all of 12 seconds.
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Old March 22 2013, 04:31 AM   #1923
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I've got a soft spot for Alan Dale since he got his start on Neighbours. Oh and being married to Julie Cooper for 2 seasons also endeared him to me.
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Old March 22 2013, 04:43 AM   #1924
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http://www.theyoungdoctors.com/

More shite they played 5 nights a week while we were eating dinner instead of a new episode of Benson.
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Old March 22 2013, 04:50 AM   #1925
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That I never saw, though I remember being forced to sit through Sons and Daughters at an ex-inlaws house. Also dinner viewing, I can taste the grease just thinking about it. But yes Alan Dale was in The Young Doctors before Neighbours,
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Old March 22 2013, 05:24 AM   #1926
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I'm not shitting you, but in the final seasons of Sons and Daughters, half the cast turned into blood sucking vampires to boost ratings.
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Old March 22 2013, 05:28 AM   #1927
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I thought that was in E Street?
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Old March 22 2013, 05:42 AM   #1928
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That's possible.

It all muddles.

The titles of these shows are ungooglable.

(More than 15 seconds defies my attention span.)
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Old March 22 2013, 04:22 PM   #1929
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I just rewatched Nemesis for the first time in awhile, and realized that the Admiral who Picard speaks with at the beginning is none other than Janeway! Boy it has been awhile since I saw this movie, how did that not click when I started Voyager? Her cameo was nice, in an otherwise not so great film (but not a terrible film by any means either). Any Nemesis fans around these parts?
I thought her cameo was ridiculously shoehorned in.

This is in contrast to the cameos by Robert Picardo and Ethan Phillips in First Contact, which I loved.
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Old March 22 2013, 10:27 PM   #1930
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I agree, cameo was lame. She should have ended up on the ship through some convenient ship-is-taxi storyline and then taken over the command when all the crisis started.
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Old March 22 2013, 10:45 PM   #1931
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Just as a further nitpick on Nemesis (although admittedly an extremely tiny one more of a costuming nitpick to be honest), but Riker should have been wearing Captains pips the entire movie.

I also feel that the writers of TMP messed up in the whole "demoting Decker to Commander" thing. When Admiral Kirk takes command of the Enterprise, he's still an Admiral, he's just Captaining the ship.

But I know I'm in the minority of folks who get peeved at this kind of thing.
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Old March 22 2013, 11:49 PM   #1932
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I agree, cameo was lame. She should have ended up on the ship through some convenient ship-is-taxi storyline and then taken over the command when all the crisis started.
I would have liked that~~!!!!
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Old March 22 2013, 11:53 PM   #1933
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But Kirk assumed Decker was going to be a punk, kirk treated like Decker was going to be a Punk and then super classy Decker rose above it all, and acted like a consummate professional who just muddled on.

What was it?

"Stop competing with me Decker!"

Kirk was shocked to find that it was he was the punk which was a magnificent moment in his development, where he had to pause and re-evaluate everything.
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Old March 23 2013, 02:31 AM   #1934
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Oh, I agree. I meant that he physically demoted Decker in rank, which was dumb. Decker was still a captain, just not captain of the Enterprise. You can't just demote someone because you feel like it!
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Old March 23 2013, 02:38 AM   #1935
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I also feel that the writers of TMP messed up in the whole "demoting Decker to Commander" thing. When Admiral Kirk takes command of the Enterprise, he's still an Admiral, he's just Captaining the ship.

But I know I'm in the minority of folks who get peeved at this kind of thing.
Totally agree. Decker was the better man. He stayed professional, unlike prissy Admiral Kirk.

And I would be even more in the minority by saying TMP is probably my favorite Trek movie. It's actually more of a tossup between TMP and GEN, but TMP is the only Original Series movie I can stomach. It's a nice, slow, cerebral story that really stays true to what Trek is all about; exploration, ideas, etc. Then in TWOK it just turned into stupid action schlock and that stuck for the rest of the TOS movies. Similarly with the TNG movies, I thought GEN got the feel of the show right better than the next three TNG films. Then in FC they turned the franchise into stupid action schlock just like TOS did (although INS wasn't too bad of an offender IMO).
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