Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) - Page 145

Admiral_Young · March 21 2013, 06:26 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if it was misdirection and something else was happening. Marvel is actually a little better at pulling this stuff off than DC is frankly, so they could very well pull something like that off.

Mr Light · March 21 2013, 06:39 PM

I could really care less about Angela. Did she stop appearing after the 90s?

Captain Craig · March 21 2013, 08:34 PM

Wait, what!!!

Angela, from Spawn. So in that link the copyright over who owns her is settled and Gaiman is loaning or selling her to Marvel? With her being in a 5 issue stint of GotG I wasn't sure if this was akin to Peter Davids character Fallen Angel. That started at DC but was apparently creator owned the whole time and he then took it to IDW.

Is this kinda like that or will Marvel now own Angela?
I don't have any real interest/nostalgia for the character, really more curious about the front office side of this.

Admiral_Young · March 21 2013, 08:36 PM

The article Allyn posted I believe explains the current rights situation regarding the character.

Captain Craig · March 21 2013, 08:43 PM

It says that while Neil is writing for Marvel Angela will be around the Marvel Universe.
It doesn't explicitly say she is now fully part of the Marvel Universe, wholly owned by Marvel/Disney.
Hence my Peter David/Fallen Angel example.

Admiral_Young · March 21 2013, 08:49 PM

The very top of Rich's article states that it is no longer a legal issue. Neil owns Angela and the rest of her angels 100 percent.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/03/...of-the-galaxy/

I'm also guessing this is just the start of getting us ready for the long awaited return of Marvelman.

Allyn Gibson · March 21 2013, 08:52 PM

Captain Craig wrote:

Wait, what!!!

Angela, from Spawn. So in that link the copyright over who owns her is settled and Gaiman is loaning or selling her to Marvel? With her being in a 5 issue stint of GotG I wasn't sure if this was akin to Peter Davids character Fallen Angel. That started at DC but was apparently creator owned the whole time and he then took it to IDW.

Is this kinda like that or will Marvel now own Angela?
I don't have any real interest/nostalgia for the character, really more curious about the front office side of this.

According to Bleeding Cool, Gaiman owns Angela outright in the settlement with McFarlane. Gaiman could well retain copyright in the character with Marvel licensing it from him, or he could have sold the character to Marvel. The former, in my opinion, is more likely than the latter.

Captain Craig · March 21 2013, 08:56 PM

Right, it's not a legal issue between Neil and McFarlane anymore. Angela and her angels are 100% Neil Gaimans and for awhile they'll be at Marvel.

It's unclear if they are licensing them or going to own them. But my thinking is, like Allyn stated, probably just leasing them while Neil is around in the Bullpen.

Admiral_Young · March 21 2013, 09:00 PM

Neil owns them, and is working for Marvel, so as you suggest...one could assume that yes they're on "loan" for the nature of the arc that he's co-writing with Bendis. It doesn't mean that Marvel themselves owns the characters. I was confused at first as to what you were getting at. My apologies Craig

Captain Craig · March 21 2013, 10:34 PM

It's good Admiral, we got on the same page for discussion in the end.

I can understand the short term business side of this(from their perspective).
They think it has PR value and will generate some additional buzz for GotG which also has a risky movie in the pipe.

Longterm I see it like the ROM issue. If Angela and her angels generates good-great stories then when they are gone it's a losing proposition. Like how Marvel keeps the Space Knights alive but deep down everyone really wants ROM back but Parker Brothers has the rights.

Davros · March 21 2013, 10:37 PM

Is Howard still leading the Fearsome Four?

Mike Farley · March 21 2013, 11:03 PM

Deep down inside I want the Micronauts back.

Admiral_Young · March 21 2013, 11:15 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if they made a comeback. The Microverse has been used in the last year in a few books...and Marvel did just bring back the New Universe in "Avengers" so anything is possible.

Mike Farley · March 22 2013, 12:44 AM

Yeah, but I want the whole schbang, not just Rann, and Mari, and Bug. I want Acroyear and Biotron and Microtron and Baron Karza. Marvel would have to re-acquire the toy rights for that.

But I take what I get. I'm a Micro-mark. I even bought that crappy Son of Hulk mini a few years ago because of the Micro's appearance.

Guy Gardener · March 22 2013, 01:04 AM

Doesn't Kitty Pryde owe the Baron a punch in the nuts?

March 21 2013, 06:26 PM	#2161
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) I wouldn't be surprised if it was misdirection and something else was happening. Marvel is actually a little better at pulling this stuff off than DC is frankly, so they could very well pull something like that off. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

March 21 2013, 06:39 PM	#2162
Mr Light Admiral Location: Pennsylvania	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) I could really care less about Angela. Did she stop appearing after the 90s? __________________

March 21 2013, 08:34 PM	#2163
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) Wait, what!!! Angela, from Spawn. So in that link the copyright over who owns her is settled and Gaiman is loaning or selling her to Marvel? With her being in a 5 issue stint of GotG I wasn't sure if this was akin to Peter Davids character Fallen Angel. That started at DC but was apparently creator owned the whole time and he then took it to IDW. Is this kinda like that or will Marvel now own Angela? I don't have any real interest/nostalgia for the character, really more curious about the front office side of this. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

March 21 2013, 08:36 PM	#2164
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) The article Allyn posted I believe explains the current rights situation regarding the character. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

March 21 2013, 08:43 PM	#2165
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) It says that while Neil is writing for Marvel Angela will be around the Marvel Universe. It doesn't explicitly say she is now fully part of the Marvel Universe, wholly owned by Marvel/Disney. Hence my Peter David/Fallen Angel example. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

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March 21 2013, 08:49 PM	#2166
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) The very top of Rich's article states that it is no longer a legal issue. Neil owns Angela and the rest of her angels 100 percent. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/03/...of-the-galaxy/ I'm also guessing this is just the start of getting us ready for the long awaited return of Marvelman. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

March 21 2013, 08:56 PM	#2168
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) Right, it's not a legal issue between Neil and McFarlane anymore. Angela and her angels are 100% Neil Gaimans and for awhile they'll be at Marvel. It's unclear if they are licensing them or going to own them. But my thinking is, like Allyn stated, probably just leasing them while Neil is around in the Bullpen. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

March 21 2013, 09:00 PM	#2169
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) Neil owns them, and is working for Marvel, so as you suggest...one could assume that yes they're on "loan" for the nature of the arc that he's co-writing with Bendis. It doesn't mean that Marvel themselves owns the characters. I was confused at first as to what you were getting at. My apologies Craig __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011. Last edited by Admiral_Young; March 21 2013 at 10:49 PM.

March 21 2013, 10:34 PM	#2170
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) It's good Admiral, we got on the same page for discussion in the end. I can understand the short term business side of this(from their perspective). They think it has PR value and will generate some additional buzz for GotG which also has a risky movie in the pipe. Longterm I see it like the ROM issue. If Angela and her angels generates good-great stories then when they are gone it's a losing proposition. Like how Marvel keeps the Space Knights alive but deep down everyone really wants ROM back but Parker Brothers has the rights. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

March 21 2013, 10:37 PM	#2171
Davros Fleet Admiral Location: Kaled bunker, Skaro	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) Is Howard still leading the Fearsome Four? __________________ "With great power comes great responsibility"-Uncle Ben Parker

March 21 2013, 11:03 PM	#2172
Mike Farley Commodore Location: Lost Vegas	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) Deep down inside I want the Micronauts back.

March 21 2013, 11:15 PM	#2173
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) I wouldn't be surprised if they made a comeback. The Microverse has been used in the last year in a few books...and Marvel did just bring back the New Universe in "Avengers" so anything is possible. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

March 22 2013, 12:44 AM	#2174
Mike Farley Commodore Location: Lost Vegas	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) Yeah, but I want the whole schbang, not just Rann, and Mari, and Bug. I want Acroyear and Biotron and Microtron and Baron Karza. Marvel would have to re-acquire the toy rights for that. But I take what I get. I'm a Micro-mark. I even bought that crappy Son of Hulk mini a few years ago because of the Micro's appearance.

March 22 2013, 01:04 AM	#2175
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) Doesn't Kitty Pryde owe the Baron a punch in the nuts? __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz