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Old March 20 2013, 07:16 PM   #616
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^ Oh yeah. I agree with you about the brand recognition and star power of the two films, but I went to see "Jack the Giant Slayer" on the basis that it was a Singer film. I also agree with the marketing campaign, which I don't think was aggressive enough or really put the film in the forefront of people's minds. I was curious as to how Singer would approach the material...and the film exceeded my own expectations. In fact it's one of my favourite Singer films...and this seems to be in the minority with regards to the film and opinions of it, but that's okay. It also had a exceedingly high budget for some reason. I think it was almost a two hundred million dollar movie. It think it's made barely $50 of that so far.
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Old March 21 2013, 12:54 AM   #617
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He said he was going to fix the continuity errors that have plagued the series starting with X-Men: The Last Stand and perpetuated with X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
But there weren't any noteworthy continuity errors between the films as of The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine, other than things like the less than perfect consistency between Logan's Origins backstory and Stryker's declaration in X2 that he gave Logan claws, the difference in Creed's appearance from Origins to X1, and perhaps the appearance of a human-looking Hank McCoy in X2, and these seem unlikely to be addressed by Singer. The continuity problems were caused by First Class not matching up with the preceding films, TLS and Origins included. Continuity errors were not "plaguing" the series before then, but the films were being criticized for other reasons ( including differing from the source material in the comics ).
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Old March 21 2013, 01:42 AM   #618
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First Class definitely messed up with continuity for a variety of reasons (Emma Frost being in the 60's and then appearing younger in the 80's in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Xavier getting paralyzed far sooner than The Last Stand depicted, the issue of Moira McTaggert, etc).

I think Singer means he's going to try and fix some of the continuity errors that have arose in the films starting with X-Men: The Last Stand, being carried over with X-Men Origins: Wolverine and continuing with X-Men: First Class. At least that's the impression I get from interviews when he talks about it, even though he stresses that's not going to be the main point of Days of Future Past.
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Old March 21 2013, 01:44 AM   #619
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We are all reading too much in his comments about "fixing things". It may have nothing to do with continuity. He mentioned not liking characters being killed off. He could return things to the status quo without spending much screen time explaining. Xavier's return was setup in the after credit scene. But I don't think he needs to waste too much screen time developing that.
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Old March 21 2013, 01:48 AM   #620
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I'm actually curious about how he plans to bring back Xavier.

Yes, it becomes apparent Xavier's consciousness was transferred to someone in the end credits tag in X-Men: The Last Stand, but that scene was really vague and I'm not sure how many people know that... if they even stuck around for that scene after the credits.

I'm sure most regular audiences know that Xavier died at the end of The Last Stand, so I am very curious to see how Singer plans to address that.
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Old March 21 2013, 01:53 AM   #621
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I think Singer means he's going to try and fix some of the continuity errors that have arose in the films starting with X-Men: The Last Stand, being carried over with X-Men Origins: Wolverine and continuing with X-Men: First Class.
But aside from the ones I mentioned, which I think it's fair to say DOFP is unlikely to address given what we know about it so far, those things weren't continuity errors until First Class made them continuity errors. They didn't arise with The Last Stand to be carried over with Origins. There was nothing to carry over.

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Yes, it becomes apparent Xavier's consciousness was transferred to someone in the end credits tag in X-Men: The Last Stand, but that scene was really vague and I'm not sure how many people know that... if they even stuck around for that scene after the credits.
I've noticed the TV cable networks never show that scene when they show the film, even though they always seem to show the after-credits scene in Iron Man.
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Old March 21 2013, 02:14 AM   #622
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Remember when First Class came out the question everyone had was if it was going to reboot the whole series. That is still a possibility. We could see the older actors play the X-men in the dark future and/or also in changed future which looks more hopeful at the end. But in fixing the past the whole history of the could be rewritten.
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Old March 21 2013, 02:21 AM   #623
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Showcase here plays the end credit sequence. It's obvious that Ratner, Kinberg and Penn took the double Xavier from Morrison's Cassandra Nova story line. I'd be immensely intrigued if Singer decided to do this But I doubt it.
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Remember when First Class came out the question everyone had was if it was going to reboot the whole series. That is still a possibility. We could see the older actors play the X-men in the dark future and/or also in changed future which looks more hopeful at the end. But in fixing the past the whole history of the could be rewritten.
Dude. That could actually be it! If not a complete ignoring of The Last Stand, at most a mere passing mentioning, and then a total retconning/undoing. I like it.
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I'm hoping and praying whatever change happens to the timeline, the film ends with Scott Summers still alive.
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Old March 21 2013, 04:49 AM   #626
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Well like I said on the last page that picture of the cast photo headshots...had four empty slots
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If not a complete ignoring of The Last Stand, at most a mere passing mentioning
I think it's too late for that.

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Remember when First Class came out the question everyone had was if it was going to reboot the whole series.
As I recall, the appearances of Jackman and Romijn were taken as evidence to the contrary, and a lot of people argued that the continuity problems could be explained or rationalized in various ways. But as we've seen in Star Trek, a "reboot" through time travel isn't the same thing as a Batman Begins-style reboot in which you completely start from scratch with an entirely different cast and the preceding films are assumed to have never happened at all.
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If not a complete ignoring of The Last Stand, at most a mere passing mentioning
I think it's too late for that.
Not at all. Consider the Back to the Future series: once Marty takes his first trip into the past, we never again see the original timeline, only the dark timeline, the improved timeline, and the really improved (or so we hope) timeline. In Parts II and III, moreover, we never see the original timeline at all.

So, if X:TLS was the original timeline, DOFP could start with the arrival of a traveler from the dark future, and, thanks to his/her meddling, the cast could repair things more than they intend, setting up an improved non-original timeline in which X3 is all but forgotten... forever.
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Consider the Back to the Future series
I try not to. Especially due to the fact that it hypnotized an entire generation into thinking that time travel must work in incredibly stupid ways. Including time travel in... other franchises.
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He said he was going to fix the continuity errors that have plagued the series starting with X-Men: The Last Stand and perpetuated with X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
But there weren't any noteworthy continuity errors between the films as of The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine, other than things like the less than perfect consistency between Logan's Origins backstory and Stryker's declaration in X2 that he gave Logan claws, the difference in Creed's appearance from Origins to X1, and perhaps the appearance of a human-looking Hank McCoy in X2, and these seem unlikely to be addressed by Singer. The continuity problems were caused by First Class not matching up with the preceding films, TLS and Origins included. Continuity errors were not "plaguing" the series before then, but the films were being criticized for other reasons ( including differing from the source material in the comics ).
I agree with that. TLS and XO: Wolverine weren't plagued with continuity errors, they were plagued with stupidity errors.
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