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Old March 19 2013, 05:56 PM   #1906
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Re: Does It Get Better???

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SCENE: interior of mess hall
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SEVEN: Obviously you've suggested a visit to the holodeck in the hopes of creating a romantic mood. Are you in love with me, Ensign?
KIM: Well, no.
SEVEN: Then you wish to copulate?
KIM: No! I mean, I, I don't know what I mean.
SEVEN: All of these elaborate rituals of deception. I didn't realise becoming human again would be such a challenge. Sexuality is particularly complex. As Borg we had no need for seduction, no time for single cell fertilization. We saw a species we wanted and we assimilated it. Nevertheless, I am willing to explore my humanity. Take off your clothes.
KIM: Er, Seven.
SEVEN: Don't be alarmed. I won't hurt you.
Sex in public? The scene is ambiguous as to whether Seven is twitting Harry or naively sincere. It is unambiguous as to foreclosing any Seven/Harry shipping.
I dislike Harry/7 almost as much as I dislike C/7.

From the crew, I can only see Seven with either the Doctor or Tuvok (if he wasn't married!). But Tuvok was so loyal to his wife, therefore I know he would never do that.

Or Icheb/7. I think Icheb definitely had a thing for Seven, even if it was more in a mother/son way. Once he aged a couple years.... yeaaa.
Human- babies!

Then there is always J/7 hehe. I am not a shipper of J/7, but it doesn't gross me out as much as C/7.
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Old March 19 2013, 06:01 PM   #1907
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The Icheb and Seven angle would have been interesting. It was pretty obvious that he was into her in that way. Too bad his feelings for her weren't further explored.
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Old March 19 2013, 06:02 PM   #1908
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Re: Does It Get Better???

Another Endgame complaint... um... WHAT HAPPENED TO ICHEB?
You see him playing Kal-toh with Tuvok and that is it.
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Old March 19 2013, 06:45 PM   #1909
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Another Endgame complaint... um... WHAT HAPPENED TO ICHEB?
You see him playing Kal-toh with Tuvok and that is it.
That's literally better than nothing.

They only had two hours (really 88 minutes), so the fact that he had sixty seconds of screen time is satisfactory.

Although, the fact that that scene is immediately followed by Seven playing with Neelix via Skype, and it gives the impression that our fearless travelers spend most of their time playing board games. Even the climax is just one big game of "You sunk my battleship!"
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Old March 19 2013, 06:53 PM   #1910
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Another Endgame complaint... um... WHAT HAPPENED TO ICHEB?
You see him playing Kal-toh with Tuvok and that is it.
That's literally better than nothing.

They only had two hours (really 88 minutes), so the fact that he had sixty seconds of screen time is satisfactory.

Although, the fact that that scene is immediately followed by Seven playing with Neelix via Skype, and it gives the impression that our fearless travelers spend most of their time playing board games. Even the climax is just one big game of "You sunk my battleship!"
Haha...at least Neelix got some screen time.

I wanted Icheb and Seven to have babies.

Should have had one or two more episodes after Endgame where all my 'ships come to be... just for me.
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Old March 20 2013, 10:45 AM   #1911
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I wanted Icheb and Seven to have babies.
Those kids would be so screwed. Can you imagine them trying to play tag at school and having everyone run away shrieking, "HE'S ASSIMILATING ME !!!!!"
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Old March 20 2013, 03:38 PM   #1912
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Unless the babies would become assimilated by nanoprobes while being incubated (possible? Who knows. It's sci-fi) you wouldn't think that the baby would be born Borg at all. Physiologically, Seven and Icheb are still human and Brunali, respectively. Their DNA hasn't been changed.
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Old March 20 2013, 03:53 PM   #1913
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Haha that's just creepy.
"congratulations it's a ........Borg?!?!"
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Old March 20 2013, 09:44 PM   #1914
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Unless the babies would become assimilated by nanoprobes while being incubated (possible? Who knows. It's sci-fi) you wouldn't think that the baby would be born Borg at all. Physiologically, Seven and Icheb are still human and Brunali, respectively. Their DNA hasn't been changed.
I'm not talking about DNA. I'm talking about the stigma of having Borg parents.
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Old March 21 2013, 01:33 AM   #1915
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Haha that's just creepy.
"congratulations it's a ........Borg?!?!"
That would be awesome!
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Old March 21 2013, 01:46 AM   #1916
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Hundreds of assimilation nodules streaming out of the Birth canal wrapping around the dutiful medical staff.

Sorta a cross between that kid cleaning his braces in Poltergeist and the Fly II when "SotraalmostbutnotreallylookslikeGiinaDavis" delivered Brundleflie's kid and he ate everyone in the delivery room after reducing them to a fine paste.

(It's lucky that my mind recalls 20th century special effects as I perceived them through naive 20th century eyes and not how they actually were, or I would take most of my mind back to the shop for store credit.)
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Old March 21 2013, 02:26 AM   #1917
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Little borg alcove for baby!
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Old March 21 2013, 02:29 AM   #1918
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Would the baby have nanoprobes from Icheb though? How many nanoprobes are in a sperm? Would the Borg have tweaked the males so that nanoprobes were included in sperm production? Seems unlikely since they don't generally breed. But there would be some breeders because though less efficient the Borg do everything and there is probably a plan going on to breed super Borg. However your average Borg, can't see it. But just because there are no nanoprobes in the sperm designed to become embryo nonprobes doesn't mean there aren't nanoprobes randomly floating around in semen and they wouldn't latch onto a new life, the embryo, and assimilate it. So perhaps there would be some Icheb nanoprobes there after all.
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Old March 21 2013, 02:29 AM   #1919
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Little borg alcove for baby!
Forge pink of blue, this season baby is in green!
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Old March 22 2013, 04:23 AM   #1920
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I just rewatched Nemesis for the first time in awhile, and realized that the Admiral who Picard speaks with at the beginning is none other than Janeway! Boy it has been awhile since I saw this movie, how did that not click when I started Voyager? Her cameo was nice, in an otherwise not so great film (but not a terrible film by any means either). Any Nemesis fans around these parts?
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