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Old March 19 2013, 04:06 AM   #1891
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Re: Does It Get Better???

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She'd have to go back to preCaretaker to save the 76 crewmen aboard Equinox before half of them died in the first week, and the rest either died or went bad and died, or went bad and then waited for trial on Earth for the next 2 decades on Voyager in the Admirals timeline.
Really you could keep going back and back and back the more people you thought of who were dead. But eventually you run into the possibility that you might not make it to the favorite thing to save, which is 7.

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One more complaint...the Doctor's dumb blonde wife before the timeline change...WTF. Out of character? Yes?
Oh it was fabulous. Of course he's flattered as hell that a REAL woman who also curiously has similar features to his protege/crush that he half created wants him. And I bet she's smart as hell too, just knows how to please the Doctor with the right fawning. Probably has a payoff for both of them, that dynamic.
Hahahaha...alright, I won't hate on her. He is a hologram and got a real woman to marry him. She just didn't seem...as smart as I would think a person like the Doctor would want for a wife. But I don't know. You only see her for about a minute. haha.

I just hate Endgame. :P
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Old March 19 2013, 04:17 AM   #1892
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I just hate Endgame. :P
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I will spare you my impassioned defense of C/7..

See, I am quite nice.
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Old March 19 2013, 04:29 AM   #1893
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I just hate Endgame. :P
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I will spare you my impassioned defense of C/7..

See, I am quite nice.
Haha.

Even though I prefer J/C together...I don't hate C/7... if the show took the time to develop it more...or at least start it off earlier (that Chakotay hologram does not count), it would have been better, I think. It was just the complete randomness of it...like right at the last possible minute, they paired them off.

Tom and B'Elanna were an unlikely couple at first, but they made it work because it was slow and steady and had a purpose. Chakotay and Seven weren't really seen as potential romantic partners until Endgame...except for Seven's holographic Chakotay a few episodes earlier in which you realize...okay, Seven likes him THAT way. But you don't ever see the real Chakotay knowing about it or reciprocating...until Endgame.

And to top it off, I hated how Chakotay didn't tell Janeway that he was seeing her. He just told her he "had plans". Got mad at that part.
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Old March 19 2013, 04:31 AM   #1894
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Then again Seven is awesome...so really she could be seen with anyone. Because who would turn that down?
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Old March 19 2013, 04:35 AM   #1895
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And to top it off, I hated how Chakotay didn't tell Janeway that he was seeing her. He just told her he "had plans". Got mad at that part.
He was scared.
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Old March 19 2013, 04:40 AM   #1896
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Then again Seven is awesome...so really she could be seen with anyone. Because who would turn that down?
Harry.

No literally. Harry turned it down.
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Old March 19 2013, 04:45 AM   #1897
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Yes. Her offer to procreate with him?

Poor Harry. Never promoted, bad luck with girls, misses his mom...virtually non-existent in Season 7. ;p
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Old March 19 2013, 04:58 AM   #1898
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No, her offer to copulate with him.
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Old March 19 2013, 05:04 AM   #1899
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No, her offer to copulate with him.
RIGHT haha.

SEVEN: Obviously you've suggested a visit to the holodeck in the hopes of creating a romantic mood. Are you in love with me, Ensign?
KIM: Well, no.
SEVEN: Then you wish to copulate?
KIM: No! I mean, I, I don't know what I mean.
SEVEN: All of these elaborate rituals of deception. I didn't realise becoming human again would be such a challenge. Sexuality is particularly complex. As Borg we had no need for seduction, no time for single cell fertilization. We saw a species we wanted and we assimilated it. Nevertheless, I am willing to explore my humanity. Take off your clothes.
KIM: Er, Seven.
SEVEN: Don't be alarmed. I won't hurt you.
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Old March 19 2013, 05:07 AM   #1900
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Wife "How do you know Joe?"

Tom "What? who's Joe? You're Joe? It took you 30 years to... Oh, you named your self in honor of Joe Carey? That's really cool of you."

Joe "Who's Joe Carey?"
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Old March 19 2013, 05:38 AM   #1901
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Joe was the name of Lana's grandfather.

Lana was about 24 in the year 2404.

Carey would have been about 72 in the year 2404 (had Janeway not left him to die).

Carey had two sons back home in Ireland.

Lana is the granddaughter of Joe Carey.

The Doctor met Lana at the 9th Anniversary Reunion, even though no one there remembered (or cared) who her grandfather was.
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Old March 19 2013, 05:48 AM   #1902
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Oh, and I looked it up. The actress who portrayed Lana had a very sparse IMDB profile, largely credited with softcore porn. Sounds like she was right up The Doctor's alley.
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Old March 19 2013, 06:43 AM   #1903
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Henry aged.

Unless she grew him to a 10 year year old instantly, and then spent ten years with a ten year old on Groundhog day?
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Old March 19 2013, 11:55 AM   #1904
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SEVEN: Obviously you've suggested a visit to the holodeck in the hopes of creating a romantic mood. Are you in love with me, Ensign?
KIM: Well, no.
SEVEN: Then you wish to copulate?
KIM: No! I mean, I, I don't know what I mean.
SEVEN: All of these elaborate rituals of deception. I didn't realise becoming human again would be such a challenge. Sexuality is particularly complex. As Borg we had no need for seduction, no time for single cell fertilization. We saw a species we wanted and we assimilated it. Nevertheless, I am willing to explore my humanity. Take off your clothes.
KIM: Er, Seven.
SEVEN: Don't be alarmed. I won't hurt you.
Sex in public? The scene is ambiguous as to whether Seven is twitting Harry or naively sincere. It is unambiguous as to foreclosing any Seven/Harry shipping.
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Old March 19 2013, 01:54 PM   #1905
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She was playing vaginal Chicken.

It's a game women can't lose whether they have to use their vagina or not.
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