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Old March 18 2013, 11:27 PM   #76
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Mulgrew has wigs and hair extensions, I've always wondered about Janeway.

The problem with the Doctor in this episode is that the character is so over joyed that in the process he loses his grumpy edge and becomes a completely nice guy... This is a marathon not a sprint, what are you going to do for the next 6 years if the Doctor is sunshine rainbows and kittens? Now it's just a question of do these fixes to his personality "take" or is the dreaded reset button going to take effect between episodes and he'll be all crotchety next week making everything that happened here irrelevant?
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Old March 19 2013, 03:32 AM   #77
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Heroes and Demons

Oh joy, a holodeck episode. And some Chakotay faith babble. Not a great start.

But then- The Doctor gets an away mission. A big milestone for the character, some great development for him, and some fantastic acting by Picardo. It turns what was starting to sound a bit tired into quite a fun episode..
This episode is full of lameass stuff that should make me dislike it but I have a huge soft spot for it. Picardo brings it home.
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Old March 19 2013, 04:22 AM   #78
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Oh joy, a holodeck episode. And some Chakotay faith babble. Not a great start.
Haaaa I love Voyager, but this is one of my least favorite episodes, at least in the beginning. When I saw you wrote "Chakotay faith babble", it made me laugh because EVERY TIME he has one of "those moments", they play that terrible "Native American" sounding music haha. EVERY TIME.

The episode had me off on a bad note because I was an English major and we had to read Beowulf like 10 times. Once in Old English...ughhhh.
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Old March 19 2013, 02:15 PM   #79
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We read Das Lied der Niebelungen in German Literature; try that one sometime, LOL. But I love "Heroes and Demons..." That chick is fabulous.
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Old March 19 2013, 03:57 PM   #80
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This episode is full of lameass stuff that should make me dislike it but I have a huge soft spot for it. Picardo brings it home.
That's the thing about this episode, it should be one you hate, but due to his acting you come out loving it.

Like Guy said, maybe it was too much at once. But for someone who had been permanently locked in sickbay his immense joy at getting out there and enjoying it makes perfect sense. But you could have had him still grumpy in Sickbay, because as far as duties go he's stuck there unless something similar happens to the holodeck (he should get a transfer to the Enterprise when they get back)
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Old March 19 2013, 06:05 PM   #81
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Robert Picardo is always awesome, no matter how bad the script may be hahahaha.
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Old March 20 2013, 10:48 AM   #82
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This episode is full of lameass stuff that should make me dislike it but I have a huge soft spot for it. Picardo brings it home.
That's the thing about this episode, it should be one you hate, but due to his acting you come out loving it.

Like Guy said, maybe it was too much at once. But for someone who had been permanently locked in sickbay his immense joy at getting out there and enjoying it makes perfect sense. But you could have had him still grumpy in Sickbay, because as far as duties go he's stuck there unless something similar happens to the holodeck (he should get a transfer to the Enterprise when they get back)
He trades in grumpy for snarky. Considering how rare snarky is on Trek it really stands out.
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Old March 20 2013, 11:13 AM   #83
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Yes, but some of us remember who programmed his interpersonal subroutines, his personality would be like that even if he had the run of the ship.
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Old March 24 2013, 09:46 PM   #84
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After all that talk of taking some time off last week, then not doing, only to get snowed under with work. So with nothing going on today I ended up spurlging on a few episodes.

Then I come back to Cathexis

I don't know how I felt about this episode. I enjoyed watching it, but as I think about the premise while writing this I'm rolling my eyes a little. That said, the double bluff what was going on was pulled off pretty well.

Mulgrew's acting in a couple of places is a bit odd though. It's clear she decided to play it suspicious of Tuvok relatively early on, despite the script having Janeway not mistrust him until much later. Which left half the scenes with her very odd.

I can see why Beltran gets annoyed later on with his character too. Here Chakotay saves the crew, but he spends 99% of the episode lying in sickbay. Though as a result we did get to see the brilliant reaction from the Doctor to the medicine wheel, especially when he points out the mistakes. Gotta love that database of knowledge. But that music started playing again, I'd not even really noticed till Captain Kathryn pointed it out. Cheers for that

For the first time during this rewatch, I think I found an episode I missed originally. I had absolutely no recollection of this before. Usually I get this vague sense of having watch them. But here, nothing.

Faces.

This one I do remember. Well the B'Elanna Klingon/Human split anyway. I didn't remember it was the Vidians. I love them as villains. The body-horror of them is very well done.

It's also a good luck at how the two sides of a person born in two cultures learns to balance them, and by removing one they aren't the same place. Dawson also does a great job of playing two versions of the same character. Though her speech as a klingon makes me wonder how much of their distinctive way of speaking is just a result of the teeth they have to wear.

Poor guy who will go on to become the police chief in Continuum (that's just a reference, not a slight on the show). Durst is introduced in one episode and killed the next. Not only that but the evil surgeon then wears his face.

Jetrel

The guy responsible for a weapon of mass destruction sets about making up what little he can for the damage he has caused. Is it me, or has this one been done a thousand times?

For a second I actually thought they were going to twist it and have the guy still an evil nutjob, but apparently not.

This one didn't really do a thing for me.
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Old March 25 2013, 04:40 AM   #85
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But that music started playing again, I'd not even really noticed till Captain Kathryn pointed it out. Cheers for that
Haha...I noticed that music early on in the series, first during the episode when he introduces Kathryn to her animal guide.

Then during episodes like Tattoo (ughhh) it plays THE WHOLE TIME! It just adds an unnecessary cheesiness to his Native-Americanness that did not need to be there lol.

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OMG just found this video on YouTube.
I would rather listen to Voyager's lame tribal music than this ANY DAY.

Why would someone make this?!?!

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Old March 25 2013, 04:41 AM   #86
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Is it the pipes?
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Old March 25 2013, 04:55 AM   #87
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Is it the pipes?
The actual music used in Voyager?
Or that ridiculous video?
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The music used in VOY. Peruvian pipes or whatever.
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Yeah...some kind of pipe music.
I had no problem with the music on its own.
It was just that EVERY TIME Chakotay was having one of his "I'm being spiritual" moments, it played.

Maybe its just me who eventually got peeved by it?

I tried to find an example of the music on YouTube, but all I get are J/C videos haha.
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See it never bothered me that every time Spock was having one of his Vulcan angst moments we got the same very poignant and tense music. But that's because I believed in Spock the character and his story.
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