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Old March 1 2013, 01:54 AM   #61
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I have a feeling Legacy will have to be redone, since we've seen references in the legacy comics to the current eu,it will need a new background continuity. Since cade is descwnded from ben, who's descended from Luke, and Mara, and there's a good chance that in the new movies, Luke will be following the no attachement rule.
Which is by no means a given in the post-Rebellion era. With Lucas no longer the one controlling Star Wars (at best, he's a creative consultant now), the new writers and producers of future productions are free to change that no attachment rule and even the rule of two for the Sith--and it really stands to reason that after thousands of years, both the Jedi and the Sith have undergone changes in their policies numerous times in the past and will do so in the future, IMO.

But regarding Legacy, even if the Skywalker line is revamped in the new movies, it really shouldn't effect it too much. We're still two or three years away from Episode VII (perhaps four with Abrams directing it), so that should be plenty enough time for the upcoming second volume of Legacy with Ania Solo (and eventually Cade) to tell its story and wrap things up before then.
This brings up a quick slightly OT question. They keep making a big thing about the new character being a descendant of Han and Leia, but I thought the Fel line was already descended from Jaina. So why is her being a Solo such a big deal, when the Fels basically are already?
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Old March 1 2013, 02:56 AM   #62
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how can there be Solos, when Anakin, and Jacen didn't have any boys?
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Old March 1 2013, 02:56 PM   #63
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The husband took the cool Solo family name rather than passing on his own name. It's happened in the past.
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Old March 1 2013, 11:04 PM   #64
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I have a feeling Legacy will have to be redone, since we've seen references in the legacy comics to the current eu,it will need a new background continuity. Since cade is descwnded from ben, who's descended from Luke, and Mara, and there's a good chance that in the new movies, Luke will be following the no attachement rule.
Which is by no means a given in the post-Rebellion era. With Lucas no longer the one controlling Star Wars (at best, he's a creative consultant now), the new writers and producers of future productions are free to change that no attachment rule and even the rule of two for the Sith--and it really stands to reason that after thousands of years, both the Jedi and the Sith have undergone changes in their policies numerous times in the past and will do so in the future, IMO.

But regarding Legacy, even if the Skywalker line is revamped in the new movies, it really shouldn't effect it too much. We're still two or three years away from Episode VII (perhaps four with Abrams directing it), so that should be plenty enough time for the upcoming second volume of Legacy with Ania Solo (and eventually Cade) to tell its story and wrap things up before then.
This brings up a quick slightly OT question. They keep making a big thing about the new character being a descendant of Han and Leia, but I thought the Fel line was already descended from Jaina. So why is her being a Solo such a big deal, when the Fels basically are already?
If Ania is estranged from the Fels--and that's possible given what became of the Fels in the Legacy era--she may have reclaimed the Solo name herself. IIRC, when will meet Ania, she will be a junkyard operator on some remote Outer Rim world.

But I do recall the folks at Dark Horse saying something about how Ania's relation to Han and Leia will be a mystery that won't be solved anytime soon.
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Old March 2 2013, 12:32 AM   #65
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The Legacy comics were plotted, long before the announcement of the sequel trilogy, so Maybe Ania is meant to replace Cade?

Maybe Lucasfilm filmed them in on sequel details, that the public won't know for awhile.

They might have to relaunch Cade, if there's no Mara, since she appears in Legacy 11
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Old March 2 2013, 01:36 AM   #66
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The Legacy comics were plotted, long before the announcement of the sequel trilogy, so Maybe Ania is meant to replace Cade?
Cade will be appearing in the new Legacy series, but not right away, according to the new writer/artist. It'll take place following the events in Legacy War.

It's best to think of the original series with Cade as "Book 1" and the new one with Ania as "Book 2," IMO.
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Old March 2 2013, 01:55 AM   #67
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I have a feeling Legacy will have to be redone, since we've seen references in the legacy comics to the current eu,it will need a new background continuity. Since cade is descwnded from ben, who's descended from Luke, and Mara, and there's a good chance that in the new movies, Luke will be following the no attachement rule.
I don't recall Legacy ever establishing that Cade descended from Ben. I mean, I assumed that, but I don't think it was ever stated. Outside of his last name and the Force Ghosts of Luke, Mara, and Anakin (I think Anakin and Mara might have been drug induced hallucinations), we know that Cade is related to them, but we don't know how.
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Old March 2 2013, 02:00 AM   #68
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Haven't they already said this new "Crucible" series will be the finale of the Han Luke Leia story?

I think Luke needs to make a great and noble self sacrifice to save the Jedi from an ultimate evil. Han and Leia I think should survive into old age after all the suffering they've been through with their children. Jaina needs to create the new Imperial dynasty with Jagged Fel, of course. Ben needs to become the next great Jedi without falling into darkness.

The big question to me is, who/what should be the final villain? Has to be someone powerful in the Dark Side, but they just did the ultimate evil in Abeloth and they just did a story with a whole mess of Sith, so where do you go from there?

If I understand my Legacy continuity correctly, it can't be the Darth Krayt group, correct? Because they stay a complete mystery until the Legacy comic, right?
For a final villain, I think Krayt can fit the bill if he kills whoever discovers him so that the One Sith can remain secret. Or whoever can survive Krayt without discovering his identity. Luke was already made aware of him in Apocalypse so it would make little sense for him not to follow up on that.

How I would like to see it end. I wouldn't mind if Han was the one that made the sacrifice, Leia take over the Jedi Order, and Luke go off into the Unknown Regions or something, a la Paul Atreides in Dune Messiah. Let's not forget Lando. He should become leader of the Alliance. Or the revitalized Trade Federation.
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Old March 2 2013, 07:15 AM   #69
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I think they will.

Lucas forced them to kill Anakin Solo to prevent reader confusion when the Prequels came out. Are they really going to allow two separate but equal continuities starring the exact same characters in the exact same time period? That would be so confusing. Not everybody pays attention to details the way we do
I didn't think Lucas had a say any more now he sold the franchise to Disney. If they did go for two lines I wonder how they would brand them so that people would know the difference?
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Old March 2 2013, 08:12 AM   #70
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Lucas forced them to kill Anakin Solo to prevent reader confusion when the Prequels came out. Are they really going to allow two separate but equal continuities starring the exact same characters in the exact same time period? That would be so confusing. Not everybody pays attention to details the way we do
I didn't think Lucas had a say any more now he sold the franchise to Disney. If they did go for two lines I wonder how they would brand them so that people would know the difference?
They could rebrand the original EU line as "Infinities" (Dark Horse used it for a "What if?" Star Wars comic series set in a different continuity). They even came up with a small logo for that line:
http://timelineuniverse.net/images/infinities_logoR.jpg
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Old March 3 2013, 01:37 AM   #71
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Would Star wars fans want an all new post ROTJ Eu?
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Old March 3 2013, 07:28 AM   #72
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If the stuff established in the new movies is interesting, I would happily read books or comics set in their universe.
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Old March 3 2013, 09:36 AM   #73
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Would Star wars fans want an all new post ROTJ Eu?
Since the majority of Star Wars fans have surely never read any of that stuff - will they care? I'm sure the subset that read the EU are large but they are still a subset.
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Old March 17 2013, 01:25 AM   #74
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Would Star wars fans want an all new post ROTJ Eu?
Oh yes - I'm getting quite excited about it.

Put it this way - I saw the first movie more times than I care to remember when it came out in 1977. I purchased all the novels, the video's, comics and so on. I was a fan.

After the long (very long) fallow period I grabbed the hardback of Heir To The Empire when it came out and followed the ever increasing number of novels until I realised part of the way through the Yuuzhan Vong books that I really didn't give a fig anymore. It just wasn't doing it for me.

Some 15 years ago I got my son up on a Sunday morning and left my wife asleep. I sat him on my lap and showed him Star Wars, his first movie - he was three weeks old. I am still a fan (and he has grown up to be a fan too).

The old EU may have lost its appeal, but the idea of a whole new start with new films and a new (hopefully better) EU has a lot of appeal to me. Bring it on...
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The entire EU will be neatly sorted out in Dark Horse Comics forthcoming mini-series:
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