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Old March 16 2013, 09:01 PM   #16
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Well, I like my surname, but it would make a silly name for an alien species. I mean it sounds like "Cling on". I guess your mileage may vary.
In TOS, the name is pronounced "Kling-in" quite a bit. It wasn't until the movies that "Kling-on" became the official pronounciation.
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Old March 16 2013, 09:04 PM   #17
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A woman XO and a devilish appearing alien.
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Old March 16 2013, 09:51 PM   #18
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That everyone on the Enterprise in TOS was an officer. Silly. Just damned silly and impractical.
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Old March 16 2013, 09:58 PM   #19
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I find many of Roddenberry's post-TOS concepts disagreeable. No money? Humans have evolved beyond greed and even inter-personal conflict?

I'm glad his concept of a "Haven"-like nudist paradise Earth never made it to film. *cue bizarro version of Into Darkness where Harrison plants bombs in the middle of parks and naked people and their pet tigers are detonated*
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Old March 16 2013, 10:03 PM   #20
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No money isn't post-TOS, I'm pretty sure.
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Old March 16 2013, 10:04 PM   #21
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Gene Roddenberry had some great ideas and some not so hot.

I'd say one of his worst ideas was that a beautiful woman in TMP should be bald.
I thought that was brilliant. Persis was far more stunning without hair than she was with it. It wouldn't have been so with most women...
Ditto. I think bald women are hot.

Seriously, no one has mentioned 'Starfleet has evolved past intercrew friction'? And even worse when Hurley kept the tradition.

edit: i see Daniel mentioned it.
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Old March 16 2013, 10:26 PM   #22
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The episode "Spock's Brain" was pretty embarrassing for Nimoy.
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Old March 16 2013, 10:34 PM   #23
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No money isn't post-TOS, I'm pretty sure.
The idea first cropped up in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. The Original Series made numerous references to money and even had the scene with Uhura haggling with Cyrano Jones to buy a tribble on Space Station K-7. Voyager later retconned the demise of money to the 22nd century in the episode "Fury". Then Kirk offered to pay for Uhura's drink in Star Trek (2009), re-un-retconning it. Sort-of.
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Old March 16 2013, 10:43 PM   #24
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I decided a long time ago that Starfleet doesn't use money, but civilians do where it's necessary. That would tend to cover "a multitude of sins."
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Old March 16 2013, 10:57 PM   #25
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Again with the money thing . . .

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Old March 16 2013, 11:08 PM   #26
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Again with the money thing . . .

Yeah, I know.

Most folks can accept warp drive, transporters, replicators, and shape-shifting aliens with no difficulty, but a money-less society--fugetaboutit...
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Old March 16 2013, 11:35 PM   #27
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That everyone on the Enterprise in TOS was an officer. Silly. Just damned silly and impractical.
I can buy GR's thinking on this. TOS was made in the era of the NASA astronaut-hero, the days of John Glenn and others. At that time, all NASA astronauts were college grads and all were officers.

GR wanted his TOS crew to be qualified astronauts, same as NASA, only in a future century. NASA only had officers as their astronauts, GR wanted no less. So okay, everyone on the Enterprise is an astronaut and an officer.
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Old March 16 2013, 11:38 PM   #28
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"Nanny" aliens, such as Gary Seven and Questor of THE QUESTOR TAPES.

Don't you go dissing Gary 7!
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Old March 17 2013, 12:12 AM   #29
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No money isn't post-TOS, I'm pretty sure.
The idea first cropped up in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
I stand corrected again (I should probably just stop).

But it still doesn't bug me. It's fairly consistent with the technology they possess. They seem to have effectively infinitely abundant energy and the technology to remove scarcity from the fundamentals of existence such as food, water, housing, clothing, etc. Money as a system would certainly be impacted by such a development. Like I say, what bothers me is how ineffectively it was explored.
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Old March 17 2013, 12:20 AM   #30
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What I want to see is people who just sit on their ass on the beach their whole life, replicating their needs. Where are these people? Because I'd sure as hell be one of them in this glorious future.
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