Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

[Praetor_Shinzon]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Bendis has said that it will have "major consequences and has a jaw dropping ending that only five people know".

I never said it wouldn't have any impact on current continuity...but it is mostly self-contained. This is why Marvel probably made it an event series so that it would, and gave it additional tie-in series (like the Superior Spider-Man) one.

Bendis returned Janet in his last Avengers arc...but I don't think she has appeared in any series yet, doesn't mean that she won't soon though

Remember that this was originally slated for last spring or summer, but they had "Avengers Vs X-Men" as their major event book at the time, so it didn't make sense for them to have two big series out...even though they will with this and "Infinity" when it arrives in the summer time.

I've long thought this was originally meant to be the conclusion of Bendis "Avengers" run but was changed to be an event but editorial. I'm pretty sure this was first announced at SDCC 2011.

Janet is set to become a member of the Uncanny Avengers team in a few months (along with Wonder Man and Sunfire).

[Guy Gardener]

What i don't get about Uncanny Avengers is that every one on that team is over qualified to be a solo hero or a squad leader, even Rogue and the Scarlet Witch, jut like the Original JLA, it's a "team" that doesn't need a leader, and really Captain America and Wolverine both forcing themselves into subordinate roles just makes these two personalities who should be dominating any group they're a part of, seem like babysitters getting read for when Alex goes crazy like his brother.

They don't trust Alex to lead a team that would follow him.

[Admiral_Young]

I think that is a very good point Guy, because one of the purposes of Uncanny Avengers is to use this new team to attempt to forge a new understanding between mutants and humans after the events of "Avengers Vs X-Men". Certainly in the opening arc we saw elements of this not really working, and Steve Rogers uncertain and mixed feelings about mutants in the first place being manipulated by Red Skull. This is ultimately about earning trust and so far that doesn't seem to be the case by most of the members on the team right now.

[Guy Gardener]

The hero Community with a few exceptions should be able to move on... It's the ordinary humans who have to be bashed raw and bloody with the crude example of solidarity from a Mutant led team of Avengers, before they link into or donate money to an extremist Hate Group like Secret Empire, Hydra, the Sons of the Serpent or the Purifiers.

[M'rk, son of Mogh]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Keep in mind as I've said before that Bendis wrote Age of Ultron at least two years ago...that is why Peter is not Otto (although the tie in will feature Otto-Peter), Carol is still Ms. Marvel, etc. Bendis probably hasn't updated his script since he finished them.

Except he DID update the scripts and it IS Otto.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/age-...me-bendis.html

Nrama: It's been said that since everyone knew this story was coming so it didn't take much maneuvering to make it fit with the current Marvel slate. So that's Superior Spider-Man in the first issue?
Bendis: Yes. But it's not going to be a major Superior Spider-Man chapter. There's not going to be any big reveals about Peter or Otto in this. For those following, yes, it fits right in. For all intents and purposes to these characters, it's Peter.
Nrama: Spider-Man's dialogue seemed to be written nimbly so that it could reasonably be interpreted either way, as Peter or Otto.
Bendis: I have massaged these scripts up until the moment you read them. And not only just for Spider-Man, but to reference all the Marvel NOW! stuff that we can.

[Hartzilla2007]

M'rk, son of Mogh wrote:

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Except he DID update the scripts and it IS Otto.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/age-...me-bendis.html

Nrama: It's been said that since everyone knew this story was coming so it didn't take much maneuvering to make it fit with the current Marvel slate. So that's Superior Spider-Man in the first issue?
Bendis: Yes. But it's not going to be a major Superior Spider-Man chapter. There's not going to be any big reveals about Peter or Otto in this. For those following, yes, it fits right in. For all intents and purposes to these characters, it's Peter.
Nrama: Spider-Man's dialogue seemed to be written nimbly so that it could reasonably be interpreted either way, as Peter or Otto.
Bendis: I have massaged these scripts up until the moment you read them. And not only just for Spider-Man, but to reference all the Marvel NOW! stuff that we can.

Except Otto Octavius is a dick, he isn't going to have some seeming freak out over Ultron wiping out people he doesn't even give a crap about like Spider-Man seemed to be doing in the issue 2 preview.

[M'rk, son of Mogh]

^^^
Obviously post-apocolyptic scenerios affect different people in different ways.

I'm just bringing to the table what was directly said.

[OdoWanKenobi]

^Well, what was directly said is pretty much a bald-faced lie.

[Admiral_Young]

Yeah I don't believe Brian when he says that was Otto-Peter in issue one or two. It's very possible he could have tweaked and updated his scripts since he first wrote them, but that didn't read like Otto-Peter at all to me. That sounded one hundred percent like Bendis 616 Peter.

I have a feeling that this is exactly what the tie-ins are for.

[Fist McStrongpunch]

Guys, everyone Bendis writes sounds exactly the same.

[Hound of UIster]

It's called Bendispeak for a reason.

[Captain Craig]

Fearless Defenders #2 anybody....that last page? I didn't know whether to chuckle or moan.

[Icemizer]

^Moaning is the way to go.

[Mr Light]

What happened? Not reading it...

[Guy Gardener]

Ultron destroyed most of America. Most of the Heroes died. New York looks like Escape form New York... (In a remastered version of Escape form New York are they going to deal with the World Trade centre? Oh, Escape from New York was set in 1997... Never mind.) The phrase "Washington DC is gone" was an absolute without need of elaboration. It's gone.

Issue one starts a week after the fall of human kind, humans like cockroaches avoiding scrambling under the rubble and into the sewers as indestructible flying robots heat ray vision anything with a pulse. Mean while a collection of b-level villains have Peter Parker tied to a chair he doesn't seem to have the strength to break free from...

Well that's odd.

Were they using adamantium handcuffs?

Unless they had him on horse tranquillizers?

Although, they were harvesting Mutant Growth Hormone (Spider-Man isn't a Mutant!) off Spider-Man, so if "Otto" was working with them up to some point, an then he was really tied to that chair because he was too much of a dick to share the world with... Or he's a Trojan horse for the villain community or Ultron?

But Spider-Man is in the wrong costume to be Otto.

Although I could see Ultron needing to trade with meat for Otto, or something Otto has or Otto can do rather than anything Peter can bring to the table.

If this turns out to be a Holodeck, and Avengers Arena turns out to be a holodeck... You have to wonder if it's the same holodeck?