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Old March 12 2013, 03:42 AM   #46
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I'm from the first generation in our family to be born in the US, and my parents are Indian. But I still consider myself American.
Since you're born here, you're a native American!

And an Indian.

And this is doing absolutely nothing to reduce the confusion between Indians and Indians and native Americans and native American Indians or native Americans with Indian ancestry... We all blame Columbus, who was lost as f***.

Residents of just about every state use the usual English conventions to form the demonym:

Hawaii - Hawaiian, Alaska - Alaskan, Kansas - Kansan, Florida - Floridian, Wisconsin - Wisconsinite, Rhode Island - Rhode Islander, Texas - Texan, until we come to Indiana.

Things were already confusing enough, so they're officially called Hoosiers, since "Indianian" would mean "of the land of the land of the people of India".
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Old March 12 2013, 04:30 AM   #47
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I always heard a child held the ancestry of it's father. In my case, my dad was of Irish descent and my mother from Scotland. Depending upon the day, what mischief we got into and my parents minor squabbles, my siblings and I were either Irish or Scot for the moment.
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Old March 12 2013, 07:10 AM   #48
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Re: Am I part Irish or not?

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Residents of just about every state use the usual English conventions to form the demonym:

Hawaii - Hawaiian, Alaska - Alaskan, Kansas - Kansan, Florida - Floridian, Wisconsin - Wisconsinite, Rhode Island - Rhode Islander, Texas - Texan, until we come to Indiana.

Things were already confusing enough, so they're officially called Hoosiers, since "Indianian" would mean "of the land of the land of the people of India".
I only scanned it briefly, but I could not find Illinois on that page. I've lived in Illinois all my life, and I can't for the life of me figure out what we call ourselves!

Illinoisan just looks weird...but spellcheck seems to think it's a word, so let's just go with that. I usually just say, "I'm from Illinois."
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Old March 12 2013, 07:16 AM   #49
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I'm 1/8th Irish. An recently getting back into my genealogy research. Managed to find my great great great grandfather who was born in 1813.

Exactly 200 years ago!
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Old March 12 2013, 08:10 AM   #50
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Just looking through our family tree that has been put online by my sister - I think the earliest we have been able to go back is to the birth of one Daniel Pearce in 1657 in Gloucestershire. He is my 8 times great grandfather. His wife was Edith (born around 1661) but we don't know her maiden name. This is on my mother's side.

On my father's side I think the furthest we have gone back is to Edmund Holmes who was 25 years old when he married Rose Rivett aged 21 in 1730 (Norfolk, England). They were my 6 x great grandparents.

The furthest we have got back in Scotland is 1772, and the furthest back in Ireland is 1790.

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Old March 12 2013, 10:26 AM   #51
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Gloucestershire. Like Worcestershire they don't make sense unless you're English.
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Old March 12 2013, 10:31 AM   #52
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I have corrected the spelling. I should have looked it up to make sure I spelt it right.

I should have just put "near Randwick". A large group lead by Simeon Henry Pearce left Randwick, Gloucestershire en masse and settled at Randwick, New South Wales.
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Old March 12 2013, 10:37 AM   #53
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The cester, caster and all variations thereof in place names all come from the Latin for a military fort, which shows you how old these place names are.
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Old March 12 2013, 10:44 AM   #54
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The cester, caster and all variations thereof in place names all come from the Latin for a military fort, which shows you how old these place names are.
Yep. My home town is a caster, and had a cavalry garrison named after this bloke who lived there from time to time.

Oh, and at least one (maybe more) of my great-grandparents was Irish, and I have an Irish surname. But I don't feel Irish in the slightest. Never even been there or owt.
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Old March 12 2013, 11:12 AM   #55
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I don't have an Irish bone in my body.

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Old March 12 2013, 12:36 PM   #56
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Residents of just about every state use the usual English conventions to form the demonym:

Hawaii - Hawaiian, Alaska - Alaskan, Kansas - Kansan, Florida - Floridian, Wisconsin - Wisconsinite, Rhode Island - Rhode Islander, Texas - Texan, until we come to Indiana.

Things were already confusing enough, so they're officially called Hoosiers, since "Indianian" would mean "of the land of the land of the people of India".
Well, Indianian could be the people of Indiania, which is slightly closer

The one that really doesn't make sense are the Guamanians.
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Old March 12 2013, 12:49 PM   #57
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Guamanians.
They were in TOS weren't they?
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Old March 12 2013, 02:19 PM   #58
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I'm from the first generation in our family to be born in the US, and my parents are Indian. But I still consider myself American.
Since you're born here, you're a native American!

And an Indian.

And this is doing absolutely nothing to reduce the confusion between Indians and Indians and native Americans and native American Indians or native Americans with Indian ancestry... We all blame Columbus, who was lost as f***.
That's why I like Indian American and American Indian -- I know it's arbitrary and rather stupid, but it's the easiest way to distinguish. Or, one could do as one of my best friends, Sonia does. With her being Indian American and me being American Indian she's just come into the habit of qualifying Indian with "dots, not feathers" and vice versa.
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Old March 12 2013, 02:25 PM   #59
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My great grandfather came to Scotland from Ireland at the age of 14 in 1914. I'm proud I have Irish ancestry, but first and foremost I'm Scottish.
I'm always a bit amused and weirded out whenever someone says they're "proud" to be a certain nationality or ethnicity. To me, pride in something should always be linked to acheivement - you're proud of your own BA, say, or proud of your kids/loved ones and their accomplishments, or even good manners/conduct.

So to people who say they're "proud to be an American", I say, oh really, you've earned that? If you were born in a poor country, and studied and worked your butt off to become a doctor, and were then offered US citizenship as a result, then by all means, be "proud" to be an American. But the only thing I did to become an American was to be born, and that was really more the doctors' doing than mine. Am I happy to be an American, sure. Proud, no.
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Old March 12 2013, 02:43 PM   #60
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^It's called basking in the reflected glory.
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