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Old March 11 2013, 07:55 PM   #1516
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because then you couldn't have all those dramatic shots of them broodily looking over a field of zombies. Or driving by them when they enter the prison.
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Old March 11 2013, 08:17 PM   #1517
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they are afraid to be out in the open do to fear of snipers, otherwise they would have fixed the fence.

Also, I want the governor to be around next season, David Morresy does such a great job portrating him.
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Old March 11 2013, 08:21 PM   #1518
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Not operating from spoilers or anything of that nature, but I can see that happening to him at the hands of Maggie, Michonne, or Andrea. I think its almost a sure thing a woman will be the agent of his downfall.
It's going to have to be a princple that kiills of the Governor
That can't be it. He doesn't have any principles.
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Old March 11 2013, 08:21 PM   #1519
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"Clear" SUCKED.

I don't understand people claiming "Clear" was "the best episode yet". It was so full of problems.

Rick and Michonne essentially murdered the Hitchhiker. Michonne's ugly cat was more important that that man's life. And do you believe you will ever see that crap cat again?

They already had baby cribs at the daycare center where Darryl and Maggie got the baby formula the day the baby was born. They chose not to get one when they were already there (probably more than once) and was closer to the prison.

Morgan wanted to clear the entire world of Walkers, yet kept the local Grille restaurant one block away fully occupied with 10 Walkers and with an unlocked door? The back door was unlocked too, as that's how Michonne went back in to get her gay cat statue which she just whipped out of nowhere.

Didn't Merle say the Governor probably had snipers on every road out of the prison to pluck them off when they tried to leave?

They go all that way to find the police station locker room empty, but they don't bother to look in the one dozen bullet boxes scattered all over the floor? Or the desk drawers?

The hitchhiker is carrying a cooking skillet hanging off his backpack? Doesn't that indicate he was carrying food which they said at the prison they were running out of the previous episode? I saw it. The three of them didn't?

How could they be running out of food at the prison when they had wall-to-wall shelves full of food just one month earlier?

Morgan murdered innocent people to hoard their guns. Merle murders. The Governor murders. Michonne murders. Shane murders. Rick murders. Maggie murdered Hayley the teenage girl when they rescued Darryl and Merle from the Arena. Carl shoots Morgan now. You're running out of characters to like.

They said they need all the guns at the police station but appear to only take one bag from Morgan.

Michonne said Carl needed a box to carry the crib so she went with them, then they carried the crib back without a box. They said they were running out of baby formula. They get the crib, but not any baby formula which was vital? As the cop, Rick didn't know a single person in the town who had a baby so they can search the house?

Unless the Axe trap was spring loaded with great pressure, just having it fall would probably only cut someone and pushed them down the stairs, yet it was covered with blood deep to the handle.

The axe was covered with bright red blood, yet anybody who ever removed an old band-aid knows old blood turns brick-red or brown. I still can't believe the FX guys keep doing "bright red" old blood. It's practically fluorescent.

Why was the axe trap all bloody but the welcome mat trap wasn't? Why didn't Rick toss the welcome matt aside so Carl wouldn't fall into it and so they wouldn't forget. Why didn't they trip the axe trap after they passed it so they wouldn't forget? How did Morgan manage to dig a square hole into the concrete sidewalk to lay the welcome mat trap with spikes?

Rick and Michonne saw the live birds in the cages in the street traps. They KNEW someone was there feeding them. They KNEW the street was occupied by a crazy person. They went in anyway.

It appears the hitchhiker may have come from the car accident, as the bodies they saw in the cars looked fresh. Which means the hitchhiker would know they just went through a town, but he goes forward to uncertainty. He had to have passed through the town anyway even if he came from elsewhere. Why didn't he grab a car from the town? And why didn't Morgan kill the hitchhiker for his backpack when he passed through? That's what Morgan does now isn't it?

Michonne had a crossbow when they loaded the car at the end (probably for Darryl). I wished they showed her picking it up, because now Darryl will have TWO crossbows and it will confuse people.

When Morgan was firing on them from the rooftop, did he tell them to drop their guns and their.... shoes?

How did Michonne teleport in and out of buildings and rooftops?

I still don't understand why they aren't plucking off the Walkers through the prison fence with their sword and knives. Given time, they would take out half of them without a shot fired.

Morgan said he and his son drove for days and/or weeks to Atlanta. But he said his son was killed by his Walker Wife when they were in a house. This means Morgan took off on the road to Atlanta... for days and/or weeks... and then turned around and went back to the town again. Otherwise it means his Walker Wife (Stalker Wife) followed them on foot to Atlanta.

What are the odds that it was Morgan's Walker-Stalker Wife would find their son? Didn't Morgan bother to close the door to the houses they were searching?

Did Morgan say he didn't turn on the walky talky for days? And you blame Rick for not being there when you finally bother to listen - when you knew Rick would have been in a city hours away?

Rick knew he shot that cop Walker in the first episode outside the police station through the fence. He didn't bother to look to see if the body was still their with bullets and a gun?

Rick knew the Bars had guns behind the counters. I thought of that back in season two when Rick and Glenn followed Hershel to the bar where Rick had the shootout with those two guys and ended up with Randall. Even then they never looked behind the bar. Every movie that has a bar fight has a bar owner with his gun.

Rick found out from Morgan's map that his house burned down. But every cop would have guns and/or bullets. What about Shane's house? Rick knew that Walker Cop through the fence in Episode One was turned so probably never made it back to his own house. All Rick needed to do was get a phone book. He knew the names of his co-workers.

Rick also said he signed the gun permits for the Bar Owners. Which means you have a whole list of Gun Owners in that Police Station. Go get it. It would also have their addresses and what types of guns and ammunition you're looking for.

Morgan scrawled on the wall a bunch of names of people who turned. So Morgan was with other people in this town this whole time who slowly got wiped out? And you don't mention this? If Morgan was alone this whole time, how did he know the people who got turned and where they turned?

There would be pictures of Carl's mother in their grandparents house. Both of them. They probably didn't live there but they did live somewhere.

I'm sure some of these could be explained. I'm also sure there are more problems with this episode I haven't covered yet. "Clear" had a LOT of problems. And after a year away from the TrekBBS, I came back just to vent this.
You know, you and I have never quite seen eye to eye, Whettestone, and even now I find I am completely in no way shape or form agreeing with anything you bring up here; your obsessiveness with attention to detail completely overrides what little (if any) storytelling sensibility you may possess but again - that's your right.

Really the only thing I object to in your overlong post is the use of the word "gay" as a pejorative. We're all --yes, even you-- better than that and it would be a LOT easier to consider what you have to say if you could tone down the vitriol and the needless swipe against a whole subset of our population in the real world just because you don't like something that happened on a tv show in a fictional world.
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Old March 11 2013, 09:17 PM   #1520
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Ah ok, thanks.
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Old March 12 2013, 12:05 AM   #1521
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Another filler episode! This series is now spinning its wheels and I thought season 2 was bad for this, just get on with the attack
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Old March 12 2013, 01:30 AM   #1522
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Old March 12 2013, 01:37 AM   #1523
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Another filler episode! This series is now spinning its wheels and I thought season 2 was bad for this, just get on with the attack
I agree there's been a bit of filler this season, but it's not neeaaarly as bad as it was in Season 2.
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Old March 12 2013, 02:00 AM   #1524
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Not operating from spoilers or anything of that nature, but I can see that happening to him at the hands of Maggie, Michonne, or Andrea. I think its almost a sure thing a woman will be the agent of his downfall.
It's going to have to be a princple that kiills of the Governor because we as the viewer just aren't emotionally invested in the townsfolk IMO. They are simply background noise to the main part of the story and the characters.
I'm not counting out Milton just yet though. For some reason, a Julius Caesar-esque, "et tu, Milton" death doesn't seem so far fetched.
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Old March 12 2013, 02:10 AM   #1525
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Another filler episode! This series is now spinning its wheels and I thought season 2 was bad for this, just get on with the attack
I agree there's been a bit of filler this season, but it's not neeaaarly as bad as it was in Season 2.
You guys think there's filler? Just be glad many modern TV productions no longer have the once-traditonal 22 - 26 episode season. Imagine how TWD would have stretched out its season to 26 episodes!?
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Old March 12 2013, 03:29 AM   #1526
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because then you couldn't have all those dramatic shots of them broodily looking over a field of zombies. Or driving by them when they enter the prison.
I was thinking in this episode those field zombies are pretty damn lazy. Daryl slowly cruises by them on his bike and they're just like "eh." Then again, his Aura of Awesomeness is protecting him anyway. Nor do they ever try to storm inner gate whenever it opens. They (the survivors) don't even try to distract them away from the gate anymore.

I kind of wish the collar stayed on Andrea's Michonne'd zombie and you see him walking around the field dragging it around every episode.
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Old March 12 2013, 05:00 AM   #1527
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I thought it was a good effort on the part of the writers to answer a question that may have been raised by the episode "Clear", why wasn't Rick's party not intercepted by the Woodbury Militia? According to the new episode, the militia was monitoring the prison, and reported what they saw to the Governor. However, this raises another question, how do they know what was being carried in the car? It could have been anything. If I was Rick, I would be suspicious that the Governor could specifically identified what was being carried, and began to ask, is there a mole in my group?

Did they - the writers - confuse the geography in this episode, or did I misremember what I heard? From one episode, where Tyrese's group finds shelter in Woodbury, I remember hearing that the area north of this town was overrun by dangerous humans. Tyrese said he had come from that there, implying that the prison was north of the town. Then in this episode, I learned that the prison is to the west of a river and the town is to the east of a river. Maybe I heard wrongly.
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Old March 12 2013, 05:34 AM   #1528
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Andrea's a fool!

I don't like Martinez that much, but he and Daryl were bonding nicely, agreeing that, regardless of what they want, it "will be decided" that they go to war. Maybe Martinez won't be so bad? Now that he sees these guys as individuals, mightn't he turn on the Governor? He seems less gung-ho than just an episode or two ago.

Still don't know why they don't just kill zombies at the fence of the prison. They can thin the herd a bit, and if things get settled with the Governor, they can repair the fence and use the grassy area for crops. They're gonna need food.
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Old March 12 2013, 05:39 AM   #1529
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Plus, maybe they'd at least momentarily slow down any Woodbury forces?
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Old March 12 2013, 08:32 AM   #1530
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and they make the prison look less attractive to anyone wandering by.
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