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Old February 20 2013, 11:23 AM   #106
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Re: FAULTY - the two worst TOS remastering mistakes

@ Thete

If this is your first time TOS experience I'd suggest to watch it in its original context first, which is the one that kept the series popular for 40 years.

I think this might help to better appreciate the improvements of TOS-R (i.e. enhanced matte paintings of planet surfaces) once you watch it a second time.

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Old February 20 2013, 02:34 PM   #107
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Re: FAULTY - the two worst TOS remastering mistakes

I watched roughly half of season one of TOS-R, but now the Blu Ray has given me the opportunity to see it as it was, so I'll take that advice!
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Old March 8 2013, 02:50 AM   #108
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Many of you probably know of Scott Gammans' efforts to create his own nuFX for "The Doomsday Machine," begun before Paramount released their own version. YouTuber SpockBoy edited together a collection of shots from Scott's work. Take note of the specular detail in the hull plating, especially in the shot starting at 21 seconds—it is very similar to the "overexposed" shot discussed earlier in this thread:

Interesting he's used music from the Bond film Moonraker I believe.
Yup, my friend Paul Sibbald (a.k.a. "Spockboy") was the one who put together that video from various test clips I posted online back in the mid 2000's. The model I built underwent several revisions before I put the project on indefinite (infinite?) hiatus; the final version can be seen from 0:21 to 0:32 in that clip.

FWIW, I enjoyed TOS-R. Do I wish that they had more time to do a more thorough job? Yes. Do I think they did a great job given the time constraints they were under. I do!
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Old March 8 2013, 05:00 AM   #109
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Re: FAULTY - the two worst TOS remastering mistakes

One of these days I'd like to try my hand at modelling the Enterprise.
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Old March 11 2013, 06:05 PM   #110
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Re: FAULTY - the two worst TOS remastering mistakes

The biggest flaw of the remastering was the depictions of the Enterprise (and other starships). Somehow they always came off looking like, well, phoney. The placement and font* of the names and registry numbers... the 'stacked shuttle main engines'-like warp nacelles... the awkwardly drawn phasers... all of them screamed (borrowing a DS9 quote) "IT'S A FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

It's shocking to compare the CBS remastered Enterprise with the Defiant from the ENT episode "In A Mirror, Darkly." The Defiant looked as good or better than the TOS Enterprise 11-footer. Why was it so hard to duplicate that effort for the remasters?

On the flip side, a number of the planet shots, such as Starbase 11, Scalos, etc... were very well done.

But the subpar rendering on the Enterprise... ruins the whole effort for me. And it's hard to say that considering the Okudas were involved and I have a world of respect for them.

*Examples: the 'giant font' of the nameplates for the Exeter and Intrepid.... the different fonts for "U.S.S." and adjacent "CONSTELLATION"
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Old March 11 2013, 08:42 PM   #111
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Re: FAULTY - the two worst TOS remastering mistakes

Could they have been trying to make the ships more compatable with animated Star Trek? It does seem to resemble the Filmation Enterprise and they were obviously infulenced by the animated show.

I'm going to get hit with dead fish and rubber chickens for posting this, but I'd like it if they did the "remaster" to the animated and use the same models for the cartoon and use cg animation, like Toy Story or Shrek, for the character parts, keep the dialogue (and the orignial cast) and redo the sound track. Maybe the could redo M'Ress with an actress, I mean new actress, and maybe not leave 80% of the voices by James Doohan, not that he did too bad with it.

I watched Immunity Syndrome yesterday, and they certainly do put the wrong space field on the screen, they show the dark anomaly before it's supposed to be visible. The timing of the reactions, Spock says, that, then they show it again, the only way it could work with the error is NO ONE was looking for several seconds, which is silly.
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