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Old March 11 2013, 10:24 AM   #31
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I'm a fan of the later McCoy era too, but I think that owes more to Andrew Cartmel than JNT
Well, JNT hired Cartmel and cast McCoy and Aldred.

(I'm with RTD in calling Colin Baker's coat “the greatest mistake in the history of television”)
That would be Voyage of the Damned.
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Or JNT could have kept his dick in his pants when he was at work. Or is that too radical an idea?
John Barrowman could have too.
Oh, come on. Assuming you're referring to that radio interview where Barrowman pulled his pants down in front of the web cam, he was being egged on by the hosts. Yes, he's a grown adult capable of making his own choices, but let's be honest. Barrowman is an attention-seeker, and he certainly got attention there. Personally, I think everyone overreacted to that one.

To my knowledge there is no evidence that John Barrowman has ever acted inappropriately, sexually or otherwise.
Yeah, the trouble is people start lumping varuious acts together and before you know if disquieting rumours start. Barrowman will, apparenly, get his willy out at the drop of a hat, but like you say that's very different to anything predatory, juvinile, yes, but that's about it.
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Old March 11 2013, 03:08 PM   #32
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Eh, As stated Previously, Gene Roddenberry is famous for his casting couch escapades. (And Berman or Braga apparently continued the tradition)

JNT didn't mess with the kiddies.

Doctor Who apparently has many stories of making Female companions feel uncomfortable at the very least, getting grabbed, leered at and who knows what else.

The only thing that makes JNT stand out is being Gay.
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Old March 11 2013, 03:24 PM   #33
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Doctor Who apparently has many stories of making Female companions feel uncomfortable at the very least, getting grabbed, leered at and who knows what else.
Yeah... what we define today as sexual harrassment was treated by an earlier generation (or at least by the men in that generation) as normative, playful behavior. There are stories of Patrick Troughton pulling Deborah Watling's or Wendy Padbury's skirt down before a take, that sort of thing, and it was seen as just a silly prank. (Not saying that was right, just that things were seen differently then.)
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Old March 11 2013, 03:34 PM   #34
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Doctor Who apparently has many stories of making Female companions feel uncomfortable at the very least, getting grabbed, leered at and who knows what else.
Reminds me of the story of the stunt man who had to dress up in Louise Jameson's costume in The Talons of Weng-Chiang claiming that nearly every guy who walked by him while he was dressed like that slapped him on the ass.
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Old March 11 2013, 07:52 PM   #35
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IMO JNT should've left when Peter Davison left after that he really had no vision for the show and he did try to leave.
I vaguely recall an interview with someone, I think Gary Downie, who claimed JNT requested several times to be assigned to other jobs. He was apparently told in no uncertain terms that if he left Doctor Who, that would mean the end of the series there and then.
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Old March 11 2013, 08:13 PM   #36
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Eh, As stated Previously, Gene Roddenberry is famous for his casting couch escapades. (And Berman or Braga apparently continued the tradition)
Braga was a big womanizer that backfired on him when he tried to go after Jolene, so he was pretty much forced to work at home mostly for Season 4 of Enterprise. Berman was ok but he had to help keep Braga's activities under wraps.
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Eh, As stated Previously, Gene Roddenberry is famous for his casting couch escapades. (And Berman or Braga apparently continued the tradition)
Braga was a big womanizer that backfired on him when he tried to go after Jolene, so he was pretty much forced to work at home mostly for Season 4 of Enterprise. Berman was ok but he had to help keep Braga's activities under wraps.
Jeff Greenwald's book on Star Trek, Future Perfect: How Star Trek Conquered Planet Earth, has a chapter that describes one of Braga's orgiastic sex parties. Come to think of it, I think that's how the book opens.
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Old March 11 2013, 11:34 PM   #38
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Seriously?! Wow. Didn't Braga marry Seven of Nine? Did they get divorced? What's this story with T'Pol?
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Old March 11 2013, 11:39 PM   #39
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Eh, As stated Previously, Gene Roddenberry is famous for his casting couch escapades. (And Berman or Braga apparently continued the tradition)

JNT didn't mess with the kiddies.

Doctor Who apparently has many stories of making Female companions feel uncomfortable at the very least, getting grabbed, leered at and who knows what else.

The only thing that makes JNT stand out is being Gay.
I think you'll find what made him stand out was the shirts...
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Old March 12 2013, 12:05 AM   #40
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Didn't Braga marry Seven of Nine?
No, because she's a fictional character. He did, however, date Jeri Ryan for a while.
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Old March 12 2013, 12:21 AM   #41
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Sometime after his relationship was with Jeri, He went after Jolene while Season 3 of Enterprise was in production. Jolene was with someone, and was incensed by this and went to Berman and some others and treatened to quit. Braga was then forced to mostly work from home and stay off the set most of the time. This acually help allowed for Manny Coto to move up to Executive Producer during season 4. Berman was able to keep this out of the media but many of the production crew knew what happened.
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Old March 12 2013, 12:56 AM   #42
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No, because she's a fictional character. He did, however, date Jeri Ryan for a while.
And the breakup of her actual marriage does have a footnote place in history, as the dirt in the divorce papers destroyed the Senate campaign of her ex-husband, and by default his replacement as the Republican candidate. All of which helped the campaign of the Democrat candidate, a young chap called Barack Obama, who didn't complete his first senate term because he won a better job...
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Old March 12 2013, 01:12 AM   #43
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Doctor Who apparently has many stories of making Female companions feel uncomfortable at the very least, getting grabbed, leered at and who knows what else.
Yeah... what we define today as sexual harrassment was treated by an earlier generation (or at least by the men in that generation) as normative, playful behavior. There are stories of Patrick Troughton pulling Deborah Watling's or Wendy Padbury's skirt down before a take, that sort of thing, and it was seen as just a silly prank. (Not saying that was right, just that things were seen differently then.)
Patrick Troughton and Frazer Hines pulled that prank in rehearsal at a church after she had fallen asleep not before an actual take of the series.
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Eh, As stated Previously, Gene Roddenberry is famous for his casting couch escapades. (And Berman or Braga apparently continued the tradition)

JNT didn't mess with the kiddies.

Doctor Who apparently has many stories of making Female companions feel uncomfortable at the very least, getting grabbed, leered at and who knows what else.

The only thing that makes JNT stand out is being Gay.
I think you'll find what made him stand out was the shirts...
Oh...Did he have Six's Fashion Sense?
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Eh, As stated Previously, Gene Roddenberry is famous for his casting couch escapades. (And Berman or Braga apparently continued the tradition)

JNT didn't mess with the kiddies.

Doctor Who apparently has many stories of making Female companions feel uncomfortable at the very least, getting grabbed, leered at and who knows what else.

The only thing that makes JNT stand out is being Gay.
I think you'll find what made him stand out was the shirts...
Oh...Did he have Six's Fashion Sense?
Not quite, but he did like to wear loud Hawaiian shirts though.
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