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Old March 11 2013, 04:51 PM   #16
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Re: too many aliens?

I would much rather have seen them develop a core of races rather than have aliens of the week. Many stories could have been linked to colonies of established races with minimal effort. Enterprise improved tremendously when they finally started to write stories around the Vulcans, Andorians, and Orions.
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Old March 11 2013, 04:56 PM   #17
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Re: too many aliens?

Eh, I just chalk it up that humanoids are a very common life-form in the Star Trek Universe. It may be a different story beyond the Milky Way Galaxy, though.
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Old March 11 2013, 05:47 PM   #18
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And really, I thought the CG Gorn on Enterprise looked worse than the lizard suit in Arena.
Definitely.
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Old March 11 2013, 07:00 PM   #19
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And really, I thought the CG Gorn on Enterprise looked worse than the lizard suit in Arena.
Definitely.
YES. I just watched that episode of ENT the other day and almost shit my pants. I'm usually opposed to CG unless you have a huge budget for it, otherwise it sometimes ends up looking absolutely ridiculous.
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Old March 11 2013, 07:36 PM   #20
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YES. I just watched that episode of ENT the other day and almost shit my pants. I'm usually opposed to CG unless you have a huge budget for it, otherwise it sometimes ends up looking absolutely ridiculous.
True, but let's not forget that the original Gorn was absolutely ridiculous as well.
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Old March 11 2013, 08:24 PM   #21
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YES. I just watched that episode of ENT the other day and almost shit my pants. I'm usually opposed to CG unless you have a huge budget for it, otherwise it sometimes ends up looking absolutely ridiculous.
True, but let's not forget that the original Gorn was absolutely ridiculous as well.
By today's standards, yes, but I can rationalize the Gorn in TOS to an extent. I much preferred the almost inectoid like eyes because it suggested something other than an Earth like reptile. Also some reptiles might get sluggish in lower temperatures than what is optimal for them. The Metrons might have provided such an environment just to even the odds a bit more. Neither Kirk nor the Gorn were truly in their comfort zone.
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Old March 11 2013, 08:27 PM   #22
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By today's standards, yes, but I can rationalize the Gorn in TOS to an extent.
Yeah, I can rationalize all kinds of things too, but the Gorn was quite obviously a big guy in a silly rubber suit. I don't mind, in fact I quite enjoy it, but let's not pretend that rubbish practical effects are any better than rubbish cgi.
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Old March 11 2013, 09:34 PM   #23
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we don't need the random latex things.
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Believe it or not, Bajorans and Betazoids were mandated to look as human as possible because "good looking women were cast to play them." Seriously.
And here we have the convergence of "good looking women" and latex.
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Old March 12 2013, 12:18 AM   #24
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YES. I just watched that episode of ENT the other day and almost shit my pants. I'm usually opposed to CG unless you have a huge budget for it, otherwise it sometimes ends up looking absolutely ridiculous.
True, but let's not forget that the original Gorn was absolutely ridiculous as well.
Yes, but what didn't look ridiculous in TOS? It was the 60's....
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Old March 12 2013, 12:45 AM   #25
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By today's standards, yes, but I can rationalize the Gorn in TOS to an extent.
Yeah, I can rationalize all kinds of things too, but the Gorn was quite obviously a big guy in a silly rubber suit. I don't mind, in fact I quite enjoy it, but let's not pretend that rubbish practical effects are any better than rubbish cgi.
So it's illegitimate to prefer one over the other? Whatever!
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Old March 12 2013, 01:21 AM   #26
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By today's standards, yes, but I can rationalize the Gorn in TOS to an extent.
Yeah, I can rationalize all kinds of things too, but the Gorn was quite obviously a big guy in a silly rubber suit. I don't mind, in fact I quite enjoy it, but let's not pretend that rubbish practical effects are any better than rubbish cgi.
So it's illegitimate to prefer one over the other? Whatever!
Okay.
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Old March 12 2013, 03:26 AM   #27
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By today's standards, yes, but I can rationalize the Gorn in TOS to an extent.
Yeah, I can rationalize all kinds of things too, but the Gorn was quite obviously a big guy in a silly rubber suit. I don't mind, in fact I quite enjoy it, but let's not pretend that rubbish practical effects are any better than rubbish cgi.
So it's illegitimate to prefer one over the other? Whatever!
No, interestingly enough, my point is "let's not pretend that rubbish practical effects are any better than rubbish cgi". You can of course prefer one over the other, if you feel so inclined.
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Old March 12 2013, 03:52 AM   #28
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Yeah, I can rationalize all kinds of things too, but the Gorn was quite obviously a big guy in a silly rubber suit. I don't mind, in fact I quite enjoy it, but let's not pretend that rubbish practical effects are any better than rubbish cgi.
So it's illegitimate to prefer one over the other? Whatever!
No, interestingly enough, my point is "let's not pretend that rubbish practical effects are any better than rubbish cgi". You can of course prefer one over the other, if you feel so inclined.
Well, you know, I generally only prefer A over B when I think that A is better than B, so you've just made a distinction without a difference.
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Old March 12 2013, 04:00 AM   #29
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Well, you know, I generally only prefer A over B when I think that A is better than B, so you've just made a distinction without a difference.
I was merely pointing out that your rationale doesn't make sense.
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Old March 12 2013, 04:02 AM   #30
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I'm all ears. How does my rationale not make any sense?
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