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Old March 10 2013, 09:50 PM   #46
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Re: Spock's the best 1st Officer in Starfleet?

Relax, cupcake. It was a joke.
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Old March 10 2013, 10:20 PM   #47
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Re: Spock's the best 1st Officer in Starfleet?

BTW, slightly off-topic, but I love Timo's idea from earlier in the thread that Spock was some squeaky-clean, ideal officer before he met Kirk. I quite like the idea that a few years of service with Kirk rubbed off on him and got him started on a bit of rule-breaking.
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Old March 11 2013, 12:29 AM   #48
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While "Amok Time" may have been premature, the Enterprise was the only ship of the original 12 Constitution-class ships to return from it's 5 year mission.

Best surviving First Officer, maybe?

Isn't FASA been declared Noncanon by now?
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Old March 11 2013, 12:30 AM   #49
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Re: Spock's the best 1st Officer in Starfleet?

LobsterAfternoon wrote: View Post
BTW, slightly off-topic, but I love Timo's idea from earlier in the thread that Spock was some squeaky-clean, ideal officer before he met Kirk. I quite like the idea that a few years of service with Kirk rubbed off on him and got him started on a bit of rule-breaking.
I've always liked to think that Spock's "damn you, Sir" in the underrated STV was his absorption of the logic of reactions like Kirk's. After all, how better to get the attention of a Klingon?
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Old March 11 2013, 02:02 AM   #50
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Re: Spock's the best 1st Officer in Starfleet?

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While "Amok Time" may have been premature, the Enterprise was the only ship of the original 12 Constitution-class ships to return from it's 5 year mission.

Best surviving First Officer, maybe?

I agree
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Old March 11 2013, 05:25 AM   #51
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Re: Spock's the best 1st Officer in Starfleet?

I never bought that idea of Kirk's ship being the only one to return. It just doesn't sound credible.
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Old March 11 2013, 05:26 AM   #52
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Me neither.
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Old March 11 2013, 06:41 PM   #53
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I thought it was the only ship to return after3r a 5 year mission with most of its crew surviving?
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Old March 11 2013, 07:02 PM   #54
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Geez, where do people get all these ideas? Where was it indicated, suggested, or even alluded to that Enterprise was the only starship to return from a five-year mission? Who said any other starships were even on five-year missions? It wasn't even discussed in the show!
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Old March 11 2013, 07:07 PM   #55
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Geez, where do people get all these ideas? Where was it indicated, suggested, or even alluded to that Enterprise was the only starship to return from a five-year mission?
I'm guessing most people probably get the idea from TMP.

Who said any other starships were even on five-year missions? It wasn't even discussed in the show!
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Old March 11 2013, 08:05 PM   #56
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I never bought that idea of Kirk's ship being the only one to return. It just doesn't sound credible.
Maybe that's why it's always the "only" ship in the area, the other's are all ceased to be. I never thought that was credible, either.

As to the OP, Uhura reported that the Starfleet leadership forgave Spock for his transgression and he wasn't to be executed. So, it was probably not widely reported, as the only officer to break the only regulation with the death penalty didn't get any penalty, it's hard to enforce laws after that.
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Old March 11 2013, 09:13 PM   #57
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Please, space is so vast that the Federation could've had hundreds of starships like Kirk's Enterprise and it would still always be the "only one in the area", both because it is the protagonist's ship, and because the chance that any two of these starships would be equidistant from a crisis spot would be nearly zero.
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Old March 11 2013, 09:49 PM   #58
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T'Pau pulled Spock's ass out of the fire at the end of "Amok Time", but at the end of "The Menagerie", too?
Perhaps the Talosians requested leniency and Starfleet was inclined to grant it since you don't want a race of people who can project illusions pissed off at you?
Thinking about it, the Talos IV death penalty is a bit stupid anyway. It's like putting a big flag on this out of the way planet shouting "Something Important Here."

You could imagine a conversation aboard a Klingon ship.
Klingon 1: Did you know the soft Earthers don't even have a death penalty?
Klingon 2: You're wrong, again. They do. For visiting Talos IV.
Klingon 1: Wonder why? Must be something important. Maybe even some awesome alien technology we could weaponise?
Klingon 2: Oh, interesting. But we can't go there, or the Earthers will execute us!
[Both laugh]
Klingon 1: Setting course now. Engaging cloak.
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Old March 11 2013, 09:51 PM   #59
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And the Talosians would make the Klingons see an empty planet, or worse, one full of tribbles.
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Old March 12 2013, 01:21 AM   #60
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Please, space is so vast that the Federation could've had hundreds of starships like Kirk's Enterprise and it would still always be the "only one in the area", both because it is the protagonist's ship, and because the chance that any two of these starships would be equidistant from a crisis spot would be nearly zero.

A great point, and very likely anywhere on the middle to outer reaches of the Federation, but in the middle around Earth and the other Member worlds, I don't buy it. Not saying it isn't possible, just not credible, IMO.

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And the Talosians would make the Klingons see an empty planet, or worse, one full of tribbles.
The Klingons would probably wonder why any ship sent there never returns.
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