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Old March 10 2013, 07:55 PM   #46
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Re: so THATS why some of the cast didn't like Diana Muldaur

she wasn't supposed to be a "jerk," she was supposed to be like Dr. McCoy to Spock.
Well she came off as a jerk to me, at least in the beginning. She did grow on me, as opposed to McFadden, who .
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Old March 10 2013, 09:33 PM   #47
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Mighty professional of the TNG actors to another actor like shit because she replaced a friend.
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Old March 10 2013, 10:39 PM   #48
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Yeah, the TOS actors would never slag each other off.
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Old March 10 2013, 10:54 PM   #49
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One specific issue for me was disrespect toward Data (mispronouncing his name even after he corrects her really irked me). He was an officer and he should have been treated accordingly.
But that didn't really last beyond...what, her first three episodes? I'd agree that during The Child and Where Silence Has Lease, she doesn't treat him all that well, but in Elementary Dear Data her criticism of him is kind of justifiable. After that I remember more Pulaski/Data moments where she was being nice to him than being disrespectful. Moments such as

- Attending his farewell party in Measure of a Man.
- Grateful for his support as she deteriorates during Unnatural Selection.
- Cheering him on Peak Performance.
- Being the only person to tell him that he did the right thing in Pen Pals.
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Old March 10 2013, 11:08 PM   #50
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One specific issue for me was disrespect toward Data (mispronouncing his name even after he corrects her really irked me). He was an officer and he should have been treated accordingly.
But that didn't really last beyond...what, her first three episodes? I'd agree that during The Child and Where Silence Has Lease, she doesn't treat him all that well, but in Elementary Dear Data her criticism of him is kind of justifiable. After that I remember more Pulaski/Data moments where she was being nice to him than being disrespectful. Moments such as

- Attending his farewell party in Measure of a Man.
- Grateful for his support as she deteriorates during Unnatural Selection.
- Cheering him on Peak Performance.
- Being the only person to tell him that he did the right thing in Pen Pals.
It would appear first impressions go a long way. And she didn't seem to recover for many people.
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Old March 10 2013, 11:14 PM   #51
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Re: so THATS why some of the cast didn't like Diana Muldaur

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One specific issue for me was disrespect toward Data (mispronouncing his name even after he corrects her really irked me). He was an officer and he should have been treated accordingly.
But that didn't really last beyond...what, her first three episodes? I'd agree that during The Child and Where Silence Has Lease, she doesn't treat him all that well, but in Elementary Dear Data her criticism of him is kind of justifiable. After that I remember more Pulaski/Data moments where she was being nice to him than being disrespectful. Moments such as

- Attending his farewell party in Measure of a Man.
- Grateful for his support as she deteriorates during Unnatural Selection.
- Cheering him on Peak Performance.
- Being the only person to tell him that he did the right thing in Pen Pals.
It would appear first impressions go a long way. And she didn't seem to recover for many people.
That is true in more respects than one. I was not a fan of Muldaur when she was in TOS and it just carried over into TNG for me. I am sure she is perfectly nice, but she just didn't work for me. I preferred McFadden, although I do wish the writers would have given her more to work with.
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Old March 10 2013, 11:17 PM   #52
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It would appear first impressions go a long way. And she didn't seem to recover for many people.
First impressions are the most important.

I think many fans disliked her the moment she came aboard and didn't meet the Captain like protocol demanded, and instead made him come to see her in Ten Forward. Not a good way to start things off.
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Old March 10 2013, 11:28 PM   #53
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For me she was just a poorly-written character. They didn't know what to do with her at all. I think they wanted her to be this foil for Picard, but it never really seemed to flow from her character at all, it just seemed to be like "What's Picard want to do this week? OK, I guess Pulaski's against that, or whatever."
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Old March 11 2013, 12:04 AM   #54
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Guess I'm in the minority, I actually liked Pulaski.
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Old March 11 2013, 01:09 AM   #55
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Yeah, the TOS actors would never slag each other off.
Which has exactly what to do with the topic at hand?
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Old March 11 2013, 01:41 AM   #56
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Yeah, the TOS actors would never slag each other off.
Which has exactly what to do with the topic at hand?
THIS from a previous post.

So, I just got back from the TNG reunion at Toronto Comicon today and something interesting happened. Marina Sirtis made a quick swipe at Diana Muldaur she was talking about her friendship with Gates McFadden and said 'I was so happy when Gates came back in the third season! It was so nice to have an actor who didn't need her lines tapped up all over the set...not that I'm naming names"
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Old March 11 2013, 01:47 AM   #57
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Yeah, the TOS actors would never slag each other off.
Which has exactly what to do with the topic at hand?
THIS from a previous post.

So, I just got back from the TNG reunion at Toronto Comicon today and something interesting happened. Marina Sirtis made a quick swipe at Diana Muldaur she was talking about her friendship with Gates McFadden and said 'I was so happy when Gates came back in the third season! It was so nice to have an actor who didn't need her lines tapped up all over the set...not that I'm naming names"
I'm just confused what TOS has to do with what was going on during season two of TNG, which was filmed eighteen years later.
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Which has exactly what to do with the topic at hand?
THIS from a previous post.

So, I just got back from the TNG reunion at Toronto Comicon today and something interesting happened. Marina Sirtis made a quick swipe at Diana Muldaur she was talking about her friendship with Gates McFadden and said 'I was so happy when Gates came back in the third season! It was so nice to have an actor who didn't need her lines tapped up all over the set...not that I'm naming names"
I'm just confused what TOS has to do with what was going on during season two of TNG, which was filmed eighteen years later.

I also don't think that the casts' situation can be compared. TNG was an ensemble show, while TOS was clearly not.
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Guess I'm in the minority, I actually liked Pulaski.
I do too. There are loads of us!


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So, I just got back from the TNG reunion at Toronto Comicon today and something interesting happened. Marina Sirtis made a quick swipe at Diana Muldaur she was talking about her friendship with Gates McFadden and said 'I was so happy when Gates came back in the third season! It was so nice to have an actor who didn't need her lines tapped up all over the set...not that I'm naming names"
Wow! Who could possibly believe Marina Sirtis of all people would be unprofessional and be rude and snarky to somebody/something else from Star Trek? She of constant "Deep Sleep Nine" comments...

Seriously, Sirtis is so unprofessional. She plays up to the fans and spouts some pretty unpleasant stuff at times. At least Muldaur had the professionalism - despite people like Sirtis - to be relatively nice about her time on Trek through various interviews across the years.
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Guess I'm in the minority, I actually liked Pulaski.
I do too. There are loads of us!


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So, I just got back from the TNG reunion at Toronto Comicon today and something interesting happened. Marina Sirtis made a quick swipe at Diana Muldaur she was talking about her friendship with Gates McFadden and said 'I was so happy when Gates came back in the third season! It was so nice to have an actor who didn't need her lines tapped up all over the set...not that I'm naming names"
Wow! Who could possibly believe Marina Sirtis of all people would be unprofessional and be rude and snarky to somebody/something else from Star Trek? She of constant "Deep Sleep Nine" comments...

Seriously, Sirtis is so unprofessional. She plays up to the fans and spouts some pretty unpleasant stuff at times. At least Muldaur had the professionalism - despite people like Sirtis - to be relatively nice about her time on Trek through various interviews across the years.
lol! Deep Sleep Nine I wish I was there for that one
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