What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? - Page 7

Sindatur · February 17 2013, 05:15 PM

When I watched Stargate sporadically and week to week from about S8 on, I thought there were very poor episodes and very few awesome episodes, that it was a Series you could usually count on get a reasonably good episode most weeks.

I did a marathon all the way through of SG1 and Atlantis a few months back and I found my opinion of few poor episodes hadn't changed, but, there were more awesome episodes than I remembered, and I really enjoyed the overall arcs of the Series, and I am definitely interested in taking that trip again some time in the future

Silvercrest · February 17 2013, 06:41 PM

BRAINS!!! BRAINS!!!

USS Firefly · February 19 2013, 06:19 PM

I'm watching Stargate SG1 for the second time, together with my wife. I think it's a great show.

Admiral Buzzkill · February 19 2013, 07:00 PM

It's fun but not thoughtful; prosaic and unimaginative. SG-1 is better than the movie in some respects. The characters in SG-1 are terribly entertaining.

bluepicard27 · February 22 2013, 10:23 PM

i enjoy it very much,because in my opinion i think its one the few sci fi shows that can mix individual episodes and arcs with great sucess

Mr. Laser Beam · February 23 2013, 01:38 AM

I've liked a few SG-1 episodes. There are some things about the show that I don't care for, such as O'Neill's attitude, but I can overlook that.

Blamo · February 23 2013, 04:06 AM

It's an enjoyable franchise for the most part, I've got the first two shows on DVD.

It's not a great show though and just about reaches okay status.

Strangely I give this show more leeway then Voyager, which in my opinion is of the same low writing quality. Certainly when watching both they feel a part of a tired franchise that needs a rest. Difference being the Stargate franchise felt like that from the outset.

The main cast was nearly always bland and uninteresting. The only character I grew attached to was Rodney McKay, which is strange since I normally can't stand his type of character.

kirk55555 · February 23 2013, 07:47 PM

I wasn't a fan of the movie, but I love the series. I'd say its #4 or 5 in my favorite Sci fi series list (it used to be #3, then Firefly beat it and it looks like B5 will either tie with it or beat it) but I really enjoy it. It had great stories with bad guys that were usually big threats. It also had amazing characters. O'Neil, Jackson, Carter, Teal'c, Mitchell and Vaala are all great characters, as were the actors who played them. Anderson/Shanks were much better than the movie versions of their characters, and Bowder and black were much better in this than in Farscape (and they played two of the characters in farscape that I liked). I'd say Jackson and Vaala are my favorite characters, but the whole main cast was great. I wasn't a huge fan of the guy who replaced Jackson for a little while, but he wasn't bad. I could put in Stargate SG-1 any time and still enjoy it a lot. I haven't seen much of Atlantis, but I mean to, eventually. I don't like Universe. What I've seen wasn't horrible, but it didn't feel like a Stargate show and the characters just annoyed me.

_C_ · February 27 2013, 07:49 AM

I liked the idea that it was set in seemingly modern times. I'm sure the budge affected how they could play it out, but I was entertained by it. I loved Teal'c, and I loved O'Neill being an ass all the time.

Pavonis · March 9 2013, 11:27 PM

Haven't read the entire thread, but here's my opinion:

I thought SG-1 was OK. I appreciated it for being set "now", and trying to deal with how we would interact with incredibly advanced technology. But, if it wanted to be realistic, then it needed to be realistic. Humans kidnapped as slave labor thousands of years ago - OK. Those same humans speaking modern English, not OK. Speaking something akin to their original language? - OK. Speaking the language of their masters - that'd be the ticket.

There were no "universal translators" to get around the language barrier in SG-1, so they added a character to deal with it, but then dropped that convention anyway. I disliked it for that reason alone. I won't mention the other problems I had with the show, since I'm not into bashing it. It was enjoyable, but I had hoped it would be a little more on the hard sci-fi side. Perhaps that was a bit unrealistic of me, but I did find it disappointing in that regard. Oh well.

DigificWriter · March 9 2013, 11:42 PM

I have to ask the question of why whether or not someone is a fan of Star Trek would have any bearing whatsoever on their thoughts concerning Stargate, as the two franchises have very little in common.

gturner · March 10 2013, 02:15 AM

Well, it's complicated. In theory anybody on Star Trek could've pulled up some old Federation archives of Stargate episodes and watched them. But anyone on Stargate almost certainly had watched Star Trek growing up. This creates a temporal paradox because a Stargate character could've referenced a Star Trek episode where a Star Fleet officer mentioned how that particular Stargate episode ended, allowing the Stargate characters to alter their fate. But if they did that it would've changed the Star Trek episode, etc.

Mindbending isn't it?

AJ86 · March 10 2013, 12:08 PM

gturner wrote:

But anyone on Stargate almost certainly had watched Star Trek growing up.

Eh? Why?

Timelord_Victorious · March 10 2013, 12:43 PM

AJ86 wrote:

gturner wrote:

But anyone on Stargate almost certainly had watched Star Trek growing up.

Eh? Why?

O'Neill certainly was a trekki. He tried to name every starship he got his hands on the Enterprise!

Pavonis · March 10 2013, 04:11 PM

Trek was certainly indirectly referenced as a fictional work in Stargate, but Stargate, as a fictional work, didn't exist in Trek.

February 17 2013, 05:15 PM	#91
Sindatur Rear Admiral Location: Sacramento, CA	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? When I watched Stargate sporadically and week to week from about S8 on, I thought there were very poor episodes and very few awesome episodes, that it was a Series you could usually count on get a reasonably good episode most weeks. I did a marathon all the way through of SG1 and Atlantis a few months back and I found my opinion of few poor episodes hadn't changed, but, there were more awesome episodes than I remembered, and I really enjoyed the overall arcs of the Series, and I am definitely interested in taking that trip again some time in the future __________________ One Day I hope to be the Man my Cat thinks I am Where are we going? And why are we in this Handbasket?

February 17 2013, 06:41 PM	#92
Silvercrest Rear Admiral Location: Lost in Moria (Arlington, WA, USA)	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? BRAINS!!! BRAINS!!!

February 19 2013, 06:19 PM	#93
USS Firefly Lieutenant Commander	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? I'm watching Stargate SG1 for the second time, together with my wife. I think it's a great show.

February 19 2013, 07:00 PM	#94
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? It's fun but not thoughtful; prosaic and unimaginative. SG-1 is better than the movie in some respects. The characters in SG-1 are terribly entertaining. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

February 22 2013, 10:23 PM	#95
bluepicard27 Lieutenant Junior Grade Location: the village of glenfinnan on the shores of loch shiel	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? i enjoy it very much,because in my opinion i think its one the few sci fi shows that can mix individual episodes and arcs with great sucess

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February 23 2013, 01:38 AM	#96
Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? I've liked a few SG-1 episodes. There are some things about the show that I don't care for, such as O'Neill's attitude, but I can overlook that. __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

February 23 2013, 04:06 AM	#97
Blamo Fleet Captain Location: UK	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? It's an enjoyable franchise for the most part, I've got the first two shows on DVD. It's not a great show though and just about reaches okay status. Strangely I give this show more leeway then Voyager, which in my opinion is of the same low writing quality. Certainly when watching both they feel a part of a tired franchise that needs a rest. Difference being the Stargate franchise felt like that from the outset. The main cast was nearly always bland and uninteresting. The only character I grew attached to was Rodney McKay, which is strange since I normally can't stand his type of character.

February 23 2013, 07:47 PM	#98
kirk55555 Captain	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? I wasn't a fan of the movie, but I love the series. I'd say its #4 or 5 in my favorite Sci fi series list (it used to be #3, then Firefly beat it and it looks like B5 will either tie with it or beat it) but I really enjoy it. It had great stories with bad guys that were usually big threats. It also had amazing characters. O'Neil, Jackson, Carter, Teal'c, Mitchell and Vaala are all great characters, as were the actors who played them. Anderson/Shanks were much better than the movie versions of their characters, and Bowder and black were much better in this than in Farscape (and they played two of the characters in farscape that I liked). I'd say Jackson and Vaala are my favorite characters, but the whole main cast was great. I wasn't a huge fan of the guy who replaced Jackson for a little while, but he wasn't bad. I could put in Stargate SG-1 any time and still enjoy it a lot. I haven't seen much of Atlantis, but I mean to, eventually. I don't like Universe. What I've seen wasn't horrible, but it didn't feel like a Stargate show and the characters just annoyed me.

February 27 2013, 07:49 AM	#99
_C_ Lieutenant Commander Location: Earth	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? I liked the idea that it was set in seemingly modern times. I'm sure the budge affected how they could play it out, but I was entertained by it. I loved Teal'c, and I loved O'Neill being an ass all the time. __________________ -* Links to my DS9 fanfics - ~~** -* My song covers *-

March 9 2013, 11:27 PM	#100
Pavonis Commodore Location: South Dakota	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? Haven't read the entire thread, but here's my opinion: I thought SG-1 was OK. I appreciated it for being set "now", and trying to deal with how we would interact with incredibly advanced technology. But, if it wanted to be realistic, then it needed to be realistic. Humans kidnapped as slave labor thousands of years ago - OK. Those same humans speaking modern English, not OK. Speaking something akin to their original language? - OK. Speaking the language of their masters - that'd be the ticket. There were no "universal translators" to get around the language barrier in SG-1, so they added a character to deal with it, but then dropped that convention anyway. I disliked it for that reason alone. I won't mention the other problems I had with the show, since I'm not into bashing it. It was enjoyable, but I had hoped it would be a little more on the hard sci-fi side. Perhaps that was a bit unrealistic of me, but I did find it disappointing in that regard. Oh well.

March 9 2013, 11:42 PM	#101
DigificWriter Rear Admiral Location: West Haven, UT, USA	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? I have to ask the question of why whether or not someone is a fan of Star Trek would have any bearing whatsoever on their thoughts concerning Stargate, as the two franchises have very little in common. __________________ Starbuck: We're all friendlies. So, let's just... be friendly. "Ze director's cut is ze film you saw in ze theater."

March 10 2013, 02:15 AM	#102
gturner Admiral Location: Kentucky	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? Well, it's complicated. In theory anybody on Star Trek could've pulled up some old Federation archives of Stargate episodes and watched them. But anyone on Stargate almost certainly had watched Star Trek growing up. This creates a temporal paradox because a Stargate character could've referenced a Star Trek episode where a Star Fleet officer mentioned how that particular Stargate episode ended, allowing the Stargate characters to alter their fate. But if they did that it would've changed the Star Trek episode, etc. Mindbending isn't it?

March 10 2013, 04:11 PM	#105
Pavonis Commodore Location: South Dakota	Re: What do Star Trek fans think of Stargate? Trek was certainly indirectly referenced as a fictional work in Stargate, but Stargate, as a fictional work, didn't exist in Trek.