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Old March 3 2012, 10:53 PM   #76
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Re: What franchise has had the closest cultural impact since Star Wars

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Martrix references, in what form, in what medium?
I can't recall the last mainstream reference to the Matrix that specifically addressed the films. If I hear/see Matrix mentioned at all it's almost in the negative as it's referring to the now overused 'bullet time' filming style.
Yeah, I agree.. and meanwhile 30 rock had ewoks on it last week.
And I saw a Star Wars McDonald's commercial a couple hours ago . . .
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Old March 24 2012, 08:42 PM   #77
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How YA like "The Hunger Games" Came to Rule Fantasy and Scifi Films

Filmcritic did a story about fantasy/sf that sems to fit and mentions all the relevant items:

he film does something else as well: It solidifies young adult science fiction and fantasy as one of the most successful genres of literature for adaptation into blockbuster films. The Hunger Games will be following on the massive success of the Twilight series (four films, $1 billion in domestic box office) and Harry Potter series (eight films, $2.3 billion), and will be followed by others, including Cassandra Clare's The Mortal Instruments, with Lily Collins (Mirror Mirror) set to star, as well as Scott Westerfeld's Uglies series, optioned and on deck.
It goes into detail about each topic.
1. Stories, Cinematically Built
2. Built-in, Fanatical Audiences
3. Young (Yet Identifiable) Heroes
4. Ancillary Merchandising

How YA like "The Hunger Games" Came to Rule Fantasy and Scifi Films
http://www.filmcritic.com/features/2...s-scifi-films/

While harry potter took in all that money and has been the next cultural impact ad star wars the next one could be after 4 movies of The Hunger Games or another YA SFF series.
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Old April 6 2012, 03:35 PM   #78
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Re: What franchise has had the closest cultural impact since Star Wars

You all named so many franchises here... but I also think the only comparable cultural impact in it's size had THE SIMPSONS.
THE SIMPSONS are for TV, what STAR WARS was for the movies.

TV would not be the same without the Simpsons. Culture would not be the same. "D'Oh" is just one example.

If Potter can stand the test of time, and people will be so active about it in let's say 2025, then we can add it to the mix...
Otherwise, look at how fast entertainment has become. Something that is "IN" today, is "OUT" tomorrow.
Does anyone on the street remember franchises like "Lost", "Sex and the City"?

Out of the cinemas or TV... out of memory.

STAR WARS was a revolution in cinemas (sorry... but although AVATAR was visually very impressive, it did not add anything new: We had motion capture since the late 90ies, CGI planets and landscapes were already established in SW and LOTR... yes 3D was impressive, but honestly... it seems it was just a short-lived excursion, look at recent 3D releases), and I doubt there will be a second impact like this.
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Old April 6 2012, 04:42 PM   #79
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I saw a Star Wars themed commercial for the new Volkswagen Passat earlier this afternoon. It was actually pretty awesome and funny.
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Old April 6 2012, 06:30 PM   #80
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mocap technology

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We had motion capture since the late 90ies,
I had to look it up:
wikipedia says:
the Atari Jaguar CD-based game Highlander: The Last of the MacLeods, released in 1995.
Highlander: The Last of the Macleods is a video game developed by Lore Design Limited and published by Atari for the Atari Jaguar CD-ROM home console system.[1] It was released on October 30, 1995.
Sinbad: Beyond the Veil of Mists was the first movie made primarily with motion capture, although many character animators also worked on the film.
Sinbad: Beyond the Veil of Mists (2000) is the first feature length CGI film created exclusively using motion capture.
At a reported US$30 million, Sinbad: Beyond the Veil of Mists is reported to be the most expensive direct-to-video movie ever shot. It was filmed at Raliegh Studios in Los Angeles, over a three-month period in 1997.
Interesting stuff.
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Old April 6 2012, 11:19 PM   #81
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Does anyone on the street remember franchises like "Lost", "Sex and the City"?
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Old April 7 2012, 07:21 AM   #82
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Does anyone on the street remember franchises like "Lost", "Sex and the City"?
Surely you remember "Lost", Set? You know, that TV show with overdeveloped clusterfuck of a plot which ended with the worst series finale since Enterprise?
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Old April 7 2012, 10:01 AM   #83
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Please some of us are trying to forgot the ending no need to bring it up and remind us. It was also bad luck for it to air later in the same week in the UK as the finale of "Ashes to Ashes" which had a similiar ending. BTW the Ashes to Ashes one was better.
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Old April 7 2012, 10:50 AM   #84
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We had motion capture since the late 90ies,
I had to look it up:
wikipedia says:
the Atari Jaguar CD-based game Highlander: The Last of the MacLeods, released in 1995.


Sinbad: Beyond the Veil of Mists (2000) is the first feature length CGI film created exclusively using motion capture.
At a reported US$30 million, Sinbad: Beyond the Veil of Mists is reported to be the most expensive direct-to-video movie ever shot. It was filmed at Raliegh Studios in Los Angeles, over a three-month period in 1997.
Interesting stuff.
There you go...

So all that AVATAR really introduced was Real 3D.
And looking at how 3D pictures fare today at the box office, it was not the revolution Mr. Cameron hoped for.

Funny: Titanic 3D was released last week, and was beaten at the BO by "The Hunger Games" (3rd week number 1), AND: American Reunion...
There is the interest in seeing 3D films...

I am glad 3D did not succeed. You do not need 3D to tell a good story, and without 3D AVATAR falls apart completely and reveals how bad it actually is...
But that's a whole different story, back to topic...
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Old April 7 2012, 11:03 AM   #85
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It believe Titanic 3D will have long legs. Cameron's movies tend to be like that. Titanic never broke any opening records back in the nineties, but it held #1 for 15 straight weeks, IIRC.

For now it seems to be less successful than TPM 3D (it took it 2 days to earn what TPM did in its opening day), but boxoffice mojo predicts it'll reach a total up to 100 mil.
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Old April 7 2012, 11:26 AM   #86
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It believe Titanic 3D will have long legs. Cameron's movies tend to be like that. Titanic never broke any opening records back in the nineties, but it held #1 for 15 straight weeks, IIRC.

For now it seems to be less successful than TPM 3D (it took it 2 days to earn what TPM did in its opening day), but boxoffice mojo predicts it'll reach a total up to 100 mil.
Could be tricky, with all the summer blockbusters at the start.
And don't forget TPM targeted young children (the next generation of STAR WARS fans).
Titanic does not have the same appeal.
I don't doubt it will be successful for a re-release, but 100 million sounds just a little too optimistic IMHO.
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Old April 7 2012, 12:21 PM   #87
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Re: What franchise has had the closest cultural impact since Star Wars

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Does anyone on the street remember franchises like "Lost", "Sex and the City"?
Surely you remember "Lost", Set? You know, that TV show with overdeveloped clusterfuck of a plot which ended with the worst series finale since Enterprise?
Are you on the street? If so, that answers the question.
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Old April 7 2012, 07:05 PM   #88
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Are you on the street? If so, that answers the question.
Is that like a metaphor? Like "in the closet" or something?
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Old March 9 2013, 07:55 PM   #89
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What do you guys think as far as franchises and the biggest and cultural impact? No not a list of the top 5 or top 10 but your choice for the biggest.
I was listening to a podcast this week and the host mentioned that the Harry Potter book series got people to get excited about reading books again. Yes they were intended for children but the books sold and made $.

Yes it had a large cultural impact.
from a business perpective HP made $
The franchise revenue is here:
Total Movie Sales $7,216,000,000
Book Sales $7,743,000,000
DVD Sales $1,878,000,000
Rentals $607,000,000
Toy Sales (Estimate) $7,307,500,000
Total Harry Potter Sales $24,751,000,000
Total Harry Potter Franchise Revenue
with each of the films broken down at the link.

compared with Star Wars:
Star Wars Total Franchise Revenue
Total Box Office Revenue$4,277,000,000
DVD

DVD Sales$2,900,000,000
DVD Rentals$875,000,000
Toys
Kenner (1978-1985)
90 Figures / 300 Million Sold $3,850,000,000
Hasbro (1995-2011) 15 Collections $5,537,000,000
Other Collectables $2,720,000,000
Books
358 Published Titles / 76 Different
Authors $1,820,000,000
Video Games
130 Games Released $2,900.000,000
Other Sources

Licensing $625,000,000
Television / 4 Seasons of Clone Wars $4,500,000
Merchandise $675,000,000
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Old March 9 2013, 09:26 PM   #90
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Re: What franchise has had the closest cultural impact since Star Wars

I gotta go with Harry Potter as well.

It was hugely successful. Like SW it made a particular genre into a mainstream phenom. And just like SW changed the way that movie studios did business, HP changed publishing.

It also had an effect on the movie business. HP was one of, if not the first, instance of the studio going out of its way to make the author happy and doing what it could to insure feality to the source material to keep the fans happy. If the HP movies hadn't been successful, for better or worse, you wouldn't have seen the Twilight franchise or the Hunger Games movies they way you did.

That being said, the poster arguing for the Simpsons makes some good points as well.
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