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Old February 21 2013, 10:09 PM   #136
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Just finished listening to your discussion about Avatar. I definitely agree that it is thanks to this series, and to Pocket's bravery in taking this direction, that we have had the wonderful, complex and interwoven novelverse we have enjoyed for the last decade plus. And I think as the "show-runner" of that series, Marco Palmieri deserves a lot of the credit. It was a great shame when Pocket let him go. Not to say that the other editors haven't done excellent work too, but I feel like Marco was something special.

As for the book itself, I remember coming across it purely by chance in an airport bookstore. I had no idea they were going to do this, so it was a nice surprise, and I was instantly hooked. I think it's probably clear from all the adapting work I've done on them that the DS9 books are my favourite, and that all started here.

I have to say I disagree with what you were saying about the Dax/Bashir relationship. I certainly do agree that they both acted rather childishly, and that's not a particularly admirable quality in a character, but I don't see it as being out of character especially, nor an unrealistic way to write a relationship. I can definitely see why their relationship would be a rocky one, because look at these two people - Bashir the man who thinks he's always right because he has the genetic engineering to back it up, and Dax the woman who always thinks she's right because she had nine lifetimes and 300 years of experience to back it up. Two egos like that are always going to clash, regardless of how much they love each other. The petulance in Ezri is not out of nowhere - see how she acted with Worf in "Penumbra", for example. And Bashir knowing intellectually how Trills work is quite different to facing it when you're in a romantic relationship with one, which he has never been before now. So I don't really have a problem with that.

Likewise with Jake, I don't know that I agree with your assertion that he had come to believe he played a role in Bajoran religion, either. I took it to be more like how you described Vaughn and Ro - accepting that the Prophets are out there and might know things other people don't, but that's a long way from thinking of them as gods or actually following the religion in the way that Kira does. Anything more than that I think would be Jake trying to convince himself of his foretold role in rescuing his father, which was what was really important to him.

One last thing - I know I always nitpick, but it's an OCD thing. You pronounced the characters' names wrong. It's Elias Vaughn (el-EYE-as), not Ellis. And Prynn Tenmei (ten-MAY), not Tenemi.

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Thanks for the feedback. I understand what you are saying about Dax/Bashir, but I still don't love it. I do think that it would be a rocky relationship as Dax is still figuring out who she is, but I find that they are selfishly expecting the other to be something and when they fail, being unfairly upset. Drop the expectations and learn to know and love the person for who they are (This is all just my opinion). I also think that Bashir has grown too much as a character to act this childish. When he finds that he is pushing Serina, he backs off and gives her space. I feel that he would be much more understanding of Dax's feelings and situation, knowing how hard the joining has been on her. True love involves sacrifice and neither of them seems willing to do that for the other; made me sad, because I wanted them to be together.
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Old February 25 2013, 02:50 PM   #137
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The new DRGIII interview is up!
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Old February 25 2013, 02:55 PM   #138
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^Cool. I'll check that out right now. I enjoyed the DS9 episode, I may give Avatar a read in the next few months
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Old February 25 2013, 04:31 PM   #139
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^Cool. I'll check that out right now. I enjoyed the DS9 episode, I may give Avatar a read in the next few months
I hope you do! We will be concluding Avatar next week
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Old February 25 2013, 07:54 PM   #140
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Great interview with David R.George discussing writting ds9 novels and Alligence in exile.I really enjoyed hearing about the upcoming novel for The Fall miniseries and the discussion about Ben sisko,Kira and Odo.
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Old February 25 2013, 08:19 PM   #141
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Great interview with David R.George discussing writting ds9 novels and Alligence in exile.I really enjoyed hearing about the upcoming novel for The Fall miniseries and the discussion about Ben sisko,Kira and Odo.
Thanks! I am really looking forward to the new series and hopefully more DS9!
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Old March 1 2013, 10:04 AM   #142
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Enjoyed the David R George III interview, just needed to listen in two sittings as it was a 2hr 6min show. It was nice to hear that DRG III enjoyes reading trek as much as writing it. I would say it does enhance the quality of his work as a result. Looking forward to his entry of The Fall, and the debut of the new DS9. Great show guys
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Old March 1 2013, 02:26 PM   #143
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Enjoyed the David R George III interview, just needed to listen in two sittings as it was a 2hr 6min show. It was nice to hear that DRG III enjoyes reading trek as much as writing it. I would say it does enhance the quality of his work as a result. Looking forward to his entry of The Fall, and the debut of the new DS9. Great show guys
I think it really does enhance his writing, PoN and RtD are great examples of how his love of the ongoing story really helps him get all the details right. You can also tell he loves characters and that his stories are motivated by them first. I think he should be given DS9, the same way Beyer has been given Voyager.
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Old March 2 2013, 06:11 PM   #144
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I think it really does enhance his writing, PoN and RtD are great examples of how his love of the ongoing story really helps him get all the details right. You can also tell he loves characters and that his stories are motivated by them first. I think he should be given DS9, the same way Beyer has been given Voyager.
Agreed, DRG III should be given DS9 as Beyer was given Voyager.
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Old March 2 2013, 07:41 PM   #145
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Honestly, at this point I wouldn't mind if they gave each of the series to a regular writer.
My line up:
Voyager: Kristen Beyer
TNG: David Mack
DS9: DRG III
Titan: James Swallow
Ent.: Christopher Bennett (probably.) I'd wait for Rise of the Federation to make a final descion, but judging by how well he's the other series, I doubt there's anything to worry about.
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Old March 4 2013, 07:20 PM   #146
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Honestly, at this point I wouldn't mind if they gave each of the series to a regular writer.
My line up:
Voyager: Kristen Beyer
TNG: David Mack
DS9: DRG III
Titan: James Swallow
Ent.: Christopher Bennett (probably.) I'd wait for Rise of the Federation to make a final descion, but judging by how well he's the other series, I doubt there's anything to worry about.
I completely agree with you!

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Old March 8 2013, 10:36 AM   #147
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You were wanting visual representations of Titan characters - Sword of Damocles author Geoffrey Thorne created "cartoon" versions of many of them (although that makes them sound less amazingly incredibly excellent than they actually are) in this thread here.

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You were wanting visual representations of Titan characters - Sword of Damocles author Geoffrey Thorne created "cartoon" versions of many of them (although that makes them sound less amazingly incredibly excellent than they actually are) in this thread here.

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Thank you! These are really fun, I wish there was a visual representation for all the EU characters.
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One of my biggest disappointments with TrekLit is the lack of images for new characters, outside of DS9 and New Frontier. I understand that they want to keep the canon characters on the covers to help sell books, but I don't see why they couldn't occasionally add a new character (other than DS9 and NF) onto a cover with a canon character. I think the only TrekLit character we've seen outside of the DS9 and NF characters is Ree, and that was pretty much just a generic image of a monitor lizard. I would love to see some more Titan characters, or some Vanguard characters.
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One of my biggest disappointments with TrekLit is the lack of images for new characters, outside of DS9 and New Frontier. I understand that they want to keep the canon characters on the covers to help sell books, but I don't see why they couldn't occasionally add a new character (other than DS9 and NF) onto a cover with a canon character. I think the only TrekLit character we've seen outside of the DS9 and NF characters is Ree, and that was pretty much just a generic image of a monitor lizard. I would love to see some more Titan characters, or some Vanguard characters.
I really agree with you. You could even have a section on StarTrek.com for the EU and character bios, pictures, get fans into it, have a contest for the best looks. These are all easy and inexpensive ways to get the fans excited for the books.

Completely unrelated; If you have not gotten a chance, please rate and review Literary Treks in iTunes. It will help others find the show! We are excited to continue to being you authors and reviews. We have some great things lined up!
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