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Old March 5 2013, 11:20 PM   #16
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Re: Season 3 HD starts next week in UK

Checked it again, and it was quite poor - the version on the SD channel actually looked better, though probably just because it was brighter. Did notice the SD was 'stretched' to widescreen, whereas the one on the HD channel was the normal 4:3 that the remastered ones have been.
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Old March 7 2013, 11:33 PM   #17
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Re: Season 3 HD starts next week in UK

No way this is the true reel to reel restoration. They wouldn't do that before it's released on disc.
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Old March 8 2013, 03:10 PM   #18
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No way this is the true reel to reel restoration. They wouldn't do that before it's released on disc.
They promoted it as such, running straight after the season 1-2 HD remasters, but yes, it's been established that SyFy are just running the season 2 SD transfers. I expect they'll run true season 3 HD on the next round of repeats (after the blu-ray release).
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Old March 8 2013, 04:58 PM   #19
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Re: Season 3 HD starts next week in UK

You can tell by looking at the fonts in the opening credits that are slightly (but noticeably) different than there SD counterparts.

Here is 'The Inner Light" is SD:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...erlight029.jpg

and in HD:

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/5x...ght_hd_032.jpg

While the fonts look very close they are not, also the quotation marks on the HD version are bigger and closer to the text. So don't be fooled by upscalling the fonts will tell you.
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Old March 9 2013, 02:25 PM   #20
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You can tell by looking at the fonts in the opening credits that are slightly (but noticeably) different than there SD counterparts.

Here is 'The Inner Light" is SD:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...erlight029.jpg

and in HD:

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/5x...ght_hd_032.jpg

While the fonts look very close they are not, also the quotation marks on the HD version are bigger and closer to the text. So don't be fooled by upscalling the fonts will tell you.
I should think that you can tell by the poor image quality that you're watching an SD upconverted episode. Besides, the fonts were changed after the demo disc so that they resemble the original font even more closely.
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Old March 9 2013, 03:11 PM   #21
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I should think that you can tell by the poor image quality that you're watching an SD upconverted episode. Besides, the fonts were changed after the demo disc so that they resemble the original font even more closely.
Quotation marks changed slightly. In Season 1 they used the curly quote marks: http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...ost_hd_057.jpg

In Season 2 they used the straight quote marks: http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x...per_hd_049.jpg [but tapered and italicized unlike the sampler disc variant]

They have stuck with the S2 quote marks for S3 onwards.
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Old July 26 2013, 07:34 PM   #22
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Glanced into Syfy now, they're showing The Ensigns of Command, which looks... quite good. I haven't seen an HD episode of TNG so I can't tell, are they finally showing it in 'proper' HD?

I noticed the picture isn't stretched, like it usually is when they're showing the old transfers.
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Old July 27 2013, 05:45 PM   #23
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Gah, I wish I was back in the UK for this!
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Old August 3 2013, 03:08 AM   #24
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Glanced into Syfy now, they're showing The Ensigns of Command, which looks... quite good. I haven't seen an HD episode of TNG so I can't tell, are they finally showing it in 'proper' HD?

I noticed the picture isn't stretched, like it usually is when they're showing the old transfers.
Yes, it's real HD. Comparing the pin-sharp HD remasters to the muddy old versions of the episode, it's like night and day.

BTW, watching SyFy, the picture quality in season 3 episode is visibly better than season 2. Is that the same on the Blu-rays, to anyone who owns the discs?
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Old August 3 2013, 05:19 AM   #25
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BTW, watching SyFy, the picture quality in season 3 episode is visibly better than season 2. Is that the same on the Blu-rays, to anyone who owns the discs?
Yes, S2 was remastered quite poorly by a 3rd party. There was quite the outrage when it was released in December 2012. Are you really not reading the reviews of the Blu-ray sets? I dunno how you can't be at least curious how they turn out even if you aren't buying them.
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Old August 3 2013, 05:34 AM   #26
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why hasn't season three been released on iTunes?
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Old August 3 2013, 04:41 PM   #27
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BTW, watching SyFy, the picture quality in season 3 episode is visibly better than season 2. Is that the same on the Blu-rays, to anyone who owns the discs?
Yes, S2 was remastered quite poorly by a 3rd party. There was quite the outrage when it was released in December 2012. Are you really not reading the reviews of the Blu-ray sets? I dunno how you can't be at least curious how they turn out even if you aren't buying them.
While not up to the quality of the work CBS-Digital did, the season two Blu-ray is miles ahead of the quality of the DVD set.
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Old August 4 2013, 02:40 AM   #28
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BTW, watching SyFy, the picture quality in season 3 episode is visibly better than season 2. Is that the same on the Blu-rays, to anyone who owns the discs?
Yes, S2 was remastered quite poorly by a 3rd party. There was quite the outrage when it was released in December 2012. Are you really not reading the reviews of the Blu-ray sets? I dunno how you can't be at least curious how they turn out even if you aren't buying them.
I wasn't aware of that at the time, as I'd been out of the Trek loop for ages, since 2010, possibly earlier. I wasn't even aware that there was an HD remastering of TNG until a few months ago when I was browsing the channels on Sky looking for Trek episodes to watch! Having just seen Into Darkness in the cinema, I needed a Trek fix ASAP, or some kind of reminding that the sci-fi franchise I used to love wasn't as bad as the film I'd just paid to see.

(There's no chance of a DS9 remastering into HD, is there?)
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Old August 4 2013, 03:05 PM   #29
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There's no chance of a DS9 remastering into HD, is there?
It sounds like it's dependant on how well TNG performs. DS9 used a lot of CGI in the last couple of season which would all have to be recreated in HD so that complicates matters.
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