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Old March 8 2013, 12:14 AM   #46
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Old March 8 2013, 01:02 AM   #47
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Old March 8 2013, 01:26 AM   #48
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Allowing for poor translation issues... that all sounds very promising.

I'm not sure the alien world adventure is all that strong an opening for the film. It's what people expect from Star Trek. Like being dropped into the middle of a distinctly average episode. A shame there wasn't a John Harrison backstory type pre-title sequence, to mirror James Kirk's from the first film. But then that would completely give the game away I suppose. Depicting an origin for somebody who's apparently got to remain a mystery...

I doubt he's Robert April now. I mean you could effectively show that Captain's fall from grace at the start, and apparent death... with the audience having no idea the villain running circles around Kirk for the rest of the film, is the same man, reborn or deaged or whatever. Instead it's left as something for the comic to play around with, and not be in the least bit manditory reading. April and what's going on in the Countdown right now, just seems far removed from this plot. He's broken the Prime Directive, but he's done it to protect others like Kirk and there's no reason he'd move on from that, to committing terrorist acts against Earth.
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Old March 8 2013, 01:38 AM   #49
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Old March 8 2013, 02:39 AM   #50
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OMG and where is Bones in all of this?"

A lot of people say Bones has now become a secondary character in JJ's Trek Universe but judging from all this spoilers its like he is hardly even a character at all.

There is not one single mention of him in the 38 minutes clip.
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Old March 8 2013, 02:50 AM   #51
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OMG and where is Bones in all of this?"

A lot of people say Bones has now become a secondary character in JJ's Trek Universe but judging from all this spoilers its like he is hardly even a character at all.

There is not one single mention of him in the 38 minutes clip.
He's with Kirk running from the natives on the volcano planet, and has several lines of (amusing) dialogue during that part.
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Old March 8 2013, 04:09 AM   #52
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God it's like getting a hit from our dealer...

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Old March 8 2013, 05:23 AM   #53
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OMG and where is Bones in all of this?"

A lot of people say Bones has now become a secondary character in JJ's Trek Universe but judging from all this spoilers its like he is hardly even a character at all.

There is not one single mention of him in the 38 minutes clip.
He's with Kirk running from the natives on the volcano planet, and has several lines of (amusing) dialogue during that part.
So basically he's now the comedy routine. Along with Scotty.

I'm not at all happy about these... uhh... spoilers.

(and, yes, first post! hello everyone)
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Old March 8 2013, 06:30 AM   #54
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OMG and where is Bones in all of this?"

A lot of people say Bones has now become a secondary character in JJ's Trek Universe but judging from all this spoilers its like he is hardly even a character at all.

There is not one single mention of him in the 38 minutes clip.
He's with Kirk running from the natives on the volcano planet, and has several lines of (amusing) dialogue during that part.
So basically he's now the comedy routine. Along with Scotty.
Sure, if you want to baselessly extrapolate McCoy's entire role in a two-hour film based on the four-minute vignette I very briefly outlined above and the single word I used to describe his dialogue in that part, I guess you could say that. But that would be rather ridiculous, and not what I was suggesting with my comment at all.
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Old March 8 2013, 02:20 PM   #55
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Old March 8 2013, 03:21 PM   #56
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Two cat girls? Nice to know that female respect has come a long way since TOS.
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Old March 8 2013, 03:34 PM   #57
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There is only one thing I don't like

Yup, cause every chase scene ever in a sci fi movie was about Anakin chasing a bounty hunter. Yup..

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Old March 8 2013, 05:14 PM   #58
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He's with Kirk running from the natives on the volcano planet, and has several lines of (amusing) dialogue during that part.
So basically he's now the comedy routine. Along with Scotty.
Sure, if you want to baselessly extrapolate McCoy's entire role in a two-hour film based on the four-minute vignette I very briefly outlined above and the single word I used to describe his dialogue in that part, I guess you could say that. But that would be rather ridiculous, and not what I was suggesting with my comment at all.
How do you know I didn't mean that he's a comedy routine in the first 38 mins?
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Old March 8 2013, 05:22 PM   #59
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So basically he's now the comedy routine. Along with Scotty.
Sure, if you want to baselessly extrapolate McCoy's entire role in a two-hour film based on the four-minute vignette I very briefly outlined above and the single word I used to describe his dialogue in that part, I guess you could say that. But that would be rather ridiculous, and not what I was suggesting with my comment at all.
How do you know I didn't mean that he's a comedy routine in the first 38 mins?
For what it's worth, while they were certainly not meant to be in the moment, in TOS and the movies, a lot of McCoy's best rants and sarcastic one-liners were actually quite humorous.
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Old March 8 2013, 05:28 PM   #60
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Sure but he was not JUST a comedy routine in either TOS or the movies.

Granted, I haven't seen the whole movie yet. We'll chat again May 18th
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