Classic monsters return (spoilers) - Page 5

The Mirrorball Man · March 7 2013, 03:29 AM

Christopher wrote:

But the Draconians were a terrific design, one that would work very well today. The record shows that alien designs are only radically changed when the originals looked fairly crude, like the Silurians or Cybermen. The Daleks, Sontarans, and Ice Warriors are hardly altered from their original appearance, beyond some refinement of the details. So I don't think it would fit the pattern for them to alter the Draconian design so drastically.

We'll see.

Venardhi · March 7 2013, 07:34 AM

I'd say there is a good bet that Sontarans kept their appearance intact(though now shrunk down) mostly for the humor factor of being these action-figurey purple and small potato-heads juxtaposed against their curt and aggressive attitude. The Daleks kept theirs because they're Daleks and they're an actual icon of the show. Ice Warriors were a bad design to begin with and their redesign somehow looks worse, I assume again for some sort of irony when the suit comes off. The Draconians could benefit from a lot of polish but nothing about the design is necessarily 'bad', just unrefined and badly executed.

Guy Gardener · March 7 2013, 10:30 AM

The Draconians in Benny Summerfield were hilarious because the writing focussed on the indentured sexism vs. aghast post Feminism. Benny kept really getting up in their grill every time they scientifically proved that women were naturally inferior to men.

I love Benny more when she raises her voice.

werdegast · March 7 2013, 02:28 PM

Maybe it is:

Draconian that has been mummified or dessicated in some way

An Osirian (not Sutekh) a la Pyramids of Mars

Most likely something new.

Christopher · March 7 2013, 02:47 PM

Venardhi wrote:

Ice Warriors were a bad design to begin with and their redesign somehow looks worse, I assume again for some sort of irony when the suit comes off.

Whereas I think the Ice Warriors were a very strong design that wasn't changed much because it didn't need to be.

Pindar · March 7 2013, 03:00 PM

This is the new Spoonhead isn't it?

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psc2347677.jpg

Christopher · March 7 2013, 03:48 PM

No, the Spoonheads are robots with heads that are actually shaped like spoons.

http://thetardispage.blogspot.com/20...or-who-s7.html

Sindatur · March 7 2013, 03:48 PM

Pindar wrote:

This is the new Spoonhead isn't it?

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psc2347677.jpg

I'm not sure. Next to the Motorcycle Mirror, on the righthand side of the bike, there is a shard that has a critter that looks something like a Gas Pump with a giant Ice Cream Scooper coming up out of it (Looks somewhat like the Information Kiosks in the Library (One of them wore Donna's fac at one point).

My guess would be that it is a robot called a Spoonhead.

ETA: Christopher Ninja'ed me. Yea, what he said (@Christopher Thanks for the confirmation and the new pic)

Starkers · March 7 2013, 04:13 PM

Pindar wrote:

This is the new Spoonhead isn't it?

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psc2347677.jpg

Remind me to never send you out for cutlery

Pindar · March 7 2013, 04:41 PM

Starkers wrote:

Pindar wrote:

This is the new Spoonhead isn't it?

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psc2347677.jpg

Remind me to never send you out for cutlery

I thought the spoonheads were going to be some kind Cardassian forehead alien.

In the glass shard the head looks like a flashbulb to me.

Haggis and tatties · March 7 2013, 05:31 PM

Ok everytime i read the name spoonheads the theme tune from button moon pops into my head. lol

Pindar · March 7 2013, 05:42 PM

Haggis and tatties wrote:

Ok everytime i read the name spoonheads the theme tune from button moon pops into my head. lol

Cue 5th Doctor tie in.

Sindatur · March 7 2013, 06:30 PM

Pindar wrote:

Starkers wrote:

Pindar wrote:

This is the new Spoonhead isn't it?

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psc2347677.jpg

Remind me to never send you out for cutlery

I thought the spoonheads were going to be some kind Cardassian forehead alien.

In the glass shard the head looks like a flashbulb to me.

Yea, the shard on the lower left hand side of the screen, does appear to have the tiniest bit of a spoon indentation showng on it's forehead, so, I thought about that at first too, but, looking at the blown up picture, you can totally see the spoon shaped head on the robot next to the mirror on the right hand side of pic.

publiusr · March 9 2013, 08:39 PM

The Sontarans were probably based on the look of shorter Russian cosmonauts, with the sphere shaped Vostok/Voskhod

As for the Daleks--take a look at Sputnik 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%D...B8%D0%BA-3.jpg
http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Sputnik/Sputnik3.php

I think the helmet of Judge Dread may have been influenced by the ice warrior captains

diankra · April 7 2013, 11:53 PM

Sorry to resurrect an aging thread, but there's a trailer for next week's episode that suggests they they've totally !!!!!!!!!ed up the Ice Warrior voices. :-(
Suddenly my enthusiasm for the return of my favourite monsters has slumped. :-(

March 7 2013, 07:34 AM	#62
Venardhi Vice Admiral Location: Constant transit	Re: Classic monsters return (spoilers) I'd say there is a good bet that Sontarans kept their appearance intact(though now shrunk down) mostly for the humor factor of being these action-figurey purple and small potato-heads juxtaposed against their curt and aggressive attitude. The Daleks kept theirs because they're Daleks and they're an actual icon of the show. Ice Warriors were a bad design to begin with and their redesign somehow looks worse, I assume again for some sort of irony when the suit comes off. The Draconians could benefit from a lot of polish but nothing about the design is necessarily 'bad', just unrefined and badly executed. __________________ "There is no reason why good cannot triumph as often as evil. The triumph of anything is a matter of organization. If there are such things as angels, I hope that they are organized along the lines of the Maffia." - Winston Niles Rumfoord.

March 7 2013, 10:30 AM	#63
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Classic monsters return (spoilers) The Draconians in Benny Summerfield were hilarious because the writing focussed on the indentured sexism vs. aghast post Feminism. Benny kept really getting up in their grill every time they scientifically proved that women were naturally inferior to men. I love Benny more when she raises her voice. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

March 7 2013, 02:28 PM	#64
werdegast Ensign	Re: Classic monsters return (spoilers) Maybe it is: Draconian that has been mummified or dessicated in some way An Osirian (not Sutekh) a la Pyramids of Mars Most likely something new.

March 7 2013, 03:00 PM	#66
Pindar Rear Admiral Location: 76 Totters Lane	Re: Classic monsters return (spoilers) This is the new Spoonhead isn't it? http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...psc2347677.jpg

March 7 2013, 03:48 PM	#67
Christopher Writer	Re: Classic monsters return (spoilers) No, the Spoonheads are robots with heads that are actually shaped like spoons. http://thetardispage.blogspot.com/20...or-who-s7.html __________________ Christopher L. Bennett Homepage -- Includes purchasing links for Only Superhuman, on sale now! Updated 12/30/12 with annotations for the novel. Written Worlds -- My blog

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March 7 2013, 05:31 PM	#71
Haggis and tatties Rear Admiral Location: Glasgow	Re: Classic monsters return (spoilers) Ok everytime i read the name spoonheads the theme tune from button moon pops into my head. lol __________________

March 9 2013, 08:39 PM	#74
publiusr Fleet Captain	Re: Classic monsters return (spoilers) The Sontarans were probably based on the look of shorter Russian cosmonauts, with the sphere shaped Vostok/Voskhod As for the Daleks--take a look at Sputnik 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%D...B8%D0%BA-3.jpg http://www.zarya.info/Diaries/Sputnik/Sputnik3.php I think the helmet of Judge Dread may have been influenced by the ice warrior captains

April 7 2013, 11:53 PM	#75
diankra Commodore Location: UK	Re: Classic monsters return (spoilers) Sorry to resurrect an aging thread, but there's a trailer for next week's episode that suggests they they've totally !!!!!!!!!ed up the Ice Warrior voices. :-( Suddenly my enthusiasm for the return of my favourite monsters has slumped. :-( __________________ "Some days are better than others. They say that where I come from." "Loudly, I imagine, on the day you left." (Blake's 7 - Rumours of Death)