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Old March 6 2013, 07:23 PM   #31
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I don't see too many actors nowadays say how uncomfortable/corny sci-fi lines are to speak. Is this maybe a sign of the times when science fiction/fantasy is more ingrained in our culture and we're simply used to it versus how we were in 1977?
I doubt that. The actors on the original Star Trek--a decade before A New Hope's shoot--rolled out technobabble like they were raised doing it, which went a long way in selling TOS. This applies to Lockwood and Dullea in 2001 (not matter how few lines were delivered).
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Old March 6 2013, 07:23 PM   #32
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You guys are crazy. Anything Hamill lacks is from "Youcanwritethisshitgeorgebutyoucan'tsayititis ". The irony being that Ford sold his lines perfectly.
Doesn't that undercut your point? If Harrison Ford was able to sell his lines, that means it's possible to give the lines effectively.
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Old March 6 2013, 07:35 PM   #33
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Seriously though, I've gotta agree with Mark Hamill, he wasn't very good in the first film
I disagree. Hamill was the reason anyone cared and bought into the fantasy situation. It was his journey, and people wanted to see where he was going in that first film based on how the role was played.

Contrast that with Hayden Christensen--who had two films as the character making the pivotal journey, but he was awful in every frame, without any sort of growth in either movie.
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Old March 6 2013, 07:46 PM   #34
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Contrast that with Hayden Christensen--who had two films as the character making the pivotal journey, but he was awful in every frame, without any sort of growth in either movie.
I agree Christensen was far worse than Hammill but for the purpose of this thread I thought we were only evaluating New Hope actors - the oriignal group.

The OP listed some obscure actor as the best example which I think is absurd. You have to choose a principle and of the New Hope principle's I still contend Hamill was worse than Fisher.

However, I also agree that by the end of the trilogy Ford was the worst only because he wasn't into it anymore.
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Old March 6 2013, 08:11 PM   #35
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Although whatever that look on Leah's face when her planet got destroyed probably could have been better
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Old March 6 2013, 08:32 PM   #36
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Although whatever that look on Leah's face when her planet got destroyed probably could have been better
Well. Fisher didn't have as much screen time as Hamill did for her to be as awful IMO as he was in the original film.

Worst Hamill scenes:

1. In the garbage bin with the monster

2. Learning to use the force on the Falcon with the blast sheild down.

3. Anytime he was acting next to Alec Guinness

4. Witnessing Obi-one's death and faux anger and saddness

5. Blowing up the death star and the contrived sense of urgency.
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Old March 6 2013, 08:51 PM   #37
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Seriously though, I've gotta agree with Mark Hamill, he wasn't very good in the first film
I disagree. Hamill was the reason anyone cared and bought into the fantasy situation. It was his journey, and people wanted to see where he was going in that first film based on how the role was played.

Contrast that with Hayden Christensen--who had two films as the character making the pivotal journey, but he was awful in every frame, without any sort of growth in either movie.
Sure, Hayden Christensen was worse, but, he wasn't in A New Hope, so, I'm not sure how Hayden Christensen being worse in his movies negates my belief that Hamill was the worst in A New Hope? If you want to challenge that belief, you should stick to the Movie that was asked about (A New Hope) and point at someone worse than Hamill.
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Old March 6 2013, 09:54 PM   #38
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I'd say the award for worst acting in the original Star Wars film goes to the guy who played "Mauler" Mithel, a.k.a. Black 2. I guess I should blame the director, but his facial expressions were completely unreadable. I just couldn't make an emotional connection with him.
I thought he sold his death scene pretty well.
"Look out!" <BOOM>

Threepio, on the other hand, shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a set. He has the facial range of a hunk of metal.
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Old March 6 2013, 11:36 PM   #39
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Maria De Aragon. She just never convinced me that Greedo shot first.

Ford on the other hand totally sold me that Han was the only one who shot at all.
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Old March 6 2013, 11:52 PM   #40
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Maria De Aragon. She just never convinced me that Greedo shot first.

Ford on the other hand totally sold me that Han was the only one who shot at all.
I think we have a winner.
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Old March 6 2013, 11:55 PM   #41
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SqTR0DorSw

It's only 11 seconds and they both manage to act horribly.
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Old March 7 2013, 01:35 AM   #42
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I'm not sure how Hayden Christensen being worse in his movies negates my belief that Hamill was the worst in A New Hope?
I already covered that with:

Hamill was the reason anyone cared and bought into the fantasy situation. It was his journey, and people wanted to see where he was going in that first film based on how the role was played
The believability of the entire film rested on how much the audience bought Luke. If Hamill failed, Ford, Guinness, FX, or anything else was not going to make the film work.
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Old March 7 2013, 02:50 AM   #43
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he was awful in every frame
Hyperbole.
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Old March 7 2013, 04:07 AM   #44
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so, I'm not sure how Hayden Christensen being worse in his movies negates my belief that Hamill was the worst in A New Hope? If you want to challenge that belief, you should stick to the Movie that was asked about (A New Hope) and point at someone worse than Hamill.
Christensen's acting was so bad, that it went back in time and reached into the earlier films.
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Old March 7 2013, 04:15 AM   #45
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You guys are crazy. Anything Hamill lacks is from "Youcanwritethisshitgeorgebutyoucan'tsayititis ". The irony being that Ford sold his lines perfectly.
Doesn't that undercut your point? If Harrison Ford was able to sell his lines, that means it's possible to give the lines effectively.

Well...

1) I think Hamill does a great job. Acting isn't just line delivery, there's the matter of busy work like when he's cleaning the droids. Yes Luke is whiny a lot. I have no problem with that.

2) Ford doesn't have to say things like, "There's nothing left for me here, I want to go with you and become a Jedi like my father."..minutes after discovering the people who raised him are skeletons. Not to mention...as directed...Lucas isn't doing Hamill any favors in that scene.

I also greatly enjoy Luke in the Cantina scene. Especially his work with Ford. "10,000!! We could almost buy a ship for that much....we don't have to take this.."

I really don't understand it when people point to Hamill or Fischer. I think they both do wonderful work in the film.

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